Disgusted..

jcs11204 · #1 07-03-2008, 03:00 PM

How do they not take that 2 yr old down in the second ? Baffert's horse was much the best, and not taking her down has cost me at least a $1000 pick 4, i am disgusted right now, i swear even if i did not bet i would still think this horse needs to come down, she was drifting out, interfared with bafferts horse more then once, i am furious right now

freddymo · #2 07-03-2008, 03:02 PM

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How do they not take that 2 yr old down in the second ? Baffert's horse was much the best, and not taking her down has cost me at least a $1000 pick 4, i am disgusted right now, i swear even if i did not bet i would still think this horse needs to come down, she was drifting out, interfared with bafferts horse more then once, i am furious right now

It was the right decision but I am sorry you lost

SCUDSBROTHER · #3 07-03-2008, 03:05 PM

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It was the right decision but I am sorry you lost

That is so ill.

jcs11204 · #4 07-03-2008, 03:06 PM

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It was the right decision but I am sorry you lost

it was not the right decision, not at all..... the horse was erratic through the stretch, driffted and bumped, it was another horrible decision by the nyra stewards

the_fat_man · #5 07-03-2008, 03:10 PM

2 possibilities:

1) they're clueless and don't realize the impact of herding (and intimidation)

2) they figure herding is part of the game and choose to selectively DQ horses that don't keep a straight path

either way they take the exactness out of the game

but more importantly, it's JUST ANOTHER way to lose --- get accustomed to it

freddymo · #6 07-03-2008, 03:11 PM

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it was not the right decision, not at all..... the horse was erratic through the stretch, driffted and bumped, it was another horrible decision by the nyra stewards

First time 2 year old filly starters have to be given a tad more give. And it was a mutual issue the steward who do suck made the right call.IMO

jcs11204 · #7 07-03-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

2 possibilities:

1) they're clueless and don't realize the impact of herding (and intimidation)

2) they figure herding is part of the game and choose to selectively DQ horses that don't keep a straight path

either way they take the exactness out of the game

but more importantly, it's JUST ANOTHER way to lose --- get accustomed to it

SO YOU AGREE WITH ME ?

jcs11204 · #8 07-03-2008, 03:15 PM

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First time 2 year old filly starters have to be given a tad more give. And it was a mutual issue the steward who do suck made the right call.IMO

mutual issue??????? we def. watched different races.

freddymo · #9 07-03-2008, 03:29 PM

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mutual issue??????? we def. watched different races.

No we didn't and I watched TVG do the head on and pan 3 times..Again I am sorry you lost but they absolutely made the right call not to take the horse down..

SCUDSBROTHER · #10 07-03-2008, 03:34 PM

It's an easy d.q.........Freddymowrong, that's 3 against 1. The fact you think there was anything mutual is (quite honestly) disturbing.

freddymo · #11 07-03-2008, 03:41 PM

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It's an easy d.q.........Freddymowrong, that's 3 against 1. The fact you think there was anything mutual is (quite honestly) disturbing.

Ok you guys win even though you lost if you know what I mean?

SCUDSBROTHER · #12 07-03-2008, 03:42 PM

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SO YOU AGREE WITH ME ?

That's funny.

SentToStud · #13 07-03-2008, 03:44 PM

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That's funny.

lol.
Fatman does not exist in a Y/N space.

blackthroatedwind · #14 07-03-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

2 possibilities:

1) they're clueless and don't realize the impact of herding (and intimidation)

2) they figure herding is part of the game and choose to selectively DQ horses that don't keep a straight path

either way they take the exactness out of the game

but more importantly, it's JUST ANOTHER way to lose --- get accustomed to it

There is absolutely no way they should have taken that horse down. He didn't herd the other horse and barely drifted.....plus he was a few paths clear of the second hanger when he started to drift.

That call was a complete no brainer.

hockey2315 · #15 07-03-2008, 04:01 PM

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There is absolutely no way they should have taken that horse down. He didn't herd the other horse and barely drifted.....plus he was a few paths clear of the second hanger when he started to drift.

That call was a complete no brainer.

Agreed. . . the 5 wasn't going by the 7 anyways.

SCUDSBROTHER · #16 07-03-2008, 04:13 PM

The Baffert horse is running totally straight, and has to shift out 2 full lanes to avoid this horse coming over on it. That hurts momentum, and it means the horse is now running further than she should have to run(if you are going sideways, then you are now running further than if you were allowed to run straight.) The horse has a f'n right to run straight. A horse who is running straight should be able to continue to run straight to the wire. Why should she have to shift over and lose momentum, and run further? She was best. I don't particularly care about the race, but she would of won if the other filly didn't do what she did.

hockey2315 · #17 07-03-2008, 04:18 PM

She also probably would've won if she had started better. . . but to change the results in that situation would have been criminal - too bad for all the people that were sending it in on Baffert's horse - and too bad for me too, as I would've had the tri a few times over, but I'd prefer to keep the stewards out of every little bump and "herd" in every race.

SCUDSBROTHER · #18 07-03-2008, 04:19 PM

Easy to call a horse a hanger if you are gunna ignore the fact she has to shift out 2 lanes, and lose momentum. That's classic.

the_fat_man · #19 07-03-2008, 04:25 PM

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There is absolutely no way they should have taken that horse down. He didn't herd the other horse and barely drifted.....plus he was a few paths clear of the second hanger when he started to drift.

That call was a complete no brainer.

You need to watch it again. He definitely herds under REPEATED lefty whip early/mid stretch, then he doesn't keep a straight path from there on under righty whip. Given the photo beat, I'd say it was more than enough.

blackthroatedwind · #20 07-03-2008, 04:28 PM

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You need to watch it again. He definitely herds under lefty whip early stretch, then he doesn't keep a straight path from there on under righty whip. Given the photo beat, I'd say it was more than enough.

I watched it two or three times during the inquiry and once after the replay ( when they finally got around to showing the head on ). I don't agree. Doesn't make me right but quite frankly I think DQs are handed out around her more than a little frivolously. We should be very happy that the stewards aren't as trigger happy as some posters here.