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Old 02-07-2008, 09:22 AM
NoLuvForPletch NoLuvForPletch is offline
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Default Beyer Help, Please

Hang with me here and pardon my lack of knowledge when it comes to speed figures as my Father and Grandfather taught me to handicap 30 years ago (and I'm still no good) when the FORM was printed in a way that resembled the NEW YORK TIMES and there weren't any speed figures in the FORM back then other than the time figure listed with the track variant. Now I use them more as a reference to assist is my handicapping.

Anyhow, my question is in reference to back to back races on Jan 27th at Aqueduct, the 3rd and 4th and they are both 6f races.

Anyhow, the winner of the 3rd race, Tater Tutt, was given a 94 Beyer figure and the winner of the 4th race, Sweet Madness, was given a 59 Beyer figure.

The fractions run by Tater Tutt were: 22 3/5, 46, 58, 110 2/5
Tater Tutt went wire to wire, unchallenged.

The fractions run by Sweet Madness were: 23 4/5, 48, 100, 113
Sweet Madness sat a few lengths off the pacesetters, swung wide on the turn, and went by fairly easily in the stretch, while being very green.

Now, I thought that it was 2 pts for each 1/5 of a second in sprints on the Beyer scale? Which, if Tater Tutt's figure is correct, shouldn't Sweet Madness's figure be a 68? Is it the pace of the race that would cause the figures to be that far off?

The reason I am asking is that the second place finisher, Half A Note is entered today and his 92 Beyer figure is much the "current best" in the field and is better than anyone in the field has EVER run. Problem is I really do not like him at all and I am putting together a Pick 6 ticket and want to leave him out but find it hard to do so if the 92 is a correct number.

His fractions were: 24 4/5, 46 3/5, 58 1/5, 110 3/5.
Obviously he came from well back in a short field and passed the ones unsuccessfully chasing the speed.

So, should I believe that he and Tater Tutt ran a 92 and 94 respectively in a 4YO and Up O C 75k/NW1X (Tater Tutt has won 5 races and I think was in for a tag and Half a Note was still eligible for the condition) and Sweet Madness won a NYS Bred 3YO filly race, beating many horses previously Beyering in the 60's + with a 59, or working off of that 59 that was given to Sweet Madness should the figures for Tater Tutt and Half A Note be closer to the mid to low 80's?

Thanks in advance.
NLFP

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