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Old 07-23-2007, 07:48 PM
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I love it! One of my ADW services lets me input a wager queue w/ minimum trigger odds. At 45 seconds it checks against the tote and submits if trigger is met. No bet if odds trigger is not met. Works in win, quin, ex and DD pools.
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:58 PM
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I love it! One of my ADW services lets me input a wager queue w/ minimum trigger odds. At 45 seconds it checks against the tote and submits if trigger is met. No bet if odds trigger is not met. Works in win, quin, ex and DD pools.
What service is that and do you have an addy for it?
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:04 PM
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What service is that and do you have an addy for it?
http://www.premierturfclub.com/
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:54 PM
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I love it! One of my ADW services lets me input a wager queue w/ minimum trigger odds. At 45 seconds it checks against the tote and submits if trigger is met. No bet if odds trigger is not met. Works in win, quin, ex and DD pools.
A super idea! I wish YouBet had that. Unfortunately, Premierturfclub has a fairly limited number of tracks to choose from.

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Old 07-24-2007, 03:01 PM
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Wow that is awesome. Hopefully otherservices will pick up software like this. Too bad they don't have any tracks that I like to play.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:34 PM
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Wow that is awesome. Hopefully otherservices will pick up software like this. Too bad they don't have any tracks that I like to play.

We're working on adding content. The reason we don't have the majors isn't due to a lack of effort.

Thanks for the kind words about the software. If you think that's neat you should see what we have coming over the next 60 days.

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Old 07-24-2007, 08:39 PM
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Hey i'm starting up an internet business. You guys seem like smart internet businessmen. Could you pm me your methods on how to advertise your site on message boards and make it seem like it's not a sales pitch? Thanks.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:57 PM
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Hey i'm starting up an internet business. You guys seem like smart internet businessmen. Could you pm me your methods on how to advertise your site on message boards and make it seem like it's not a sales pitch? Thanks.
FYI, other than being a user I have no financial interest in them......
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:41 PM
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Hey i'm starting up an internet business. You guys seem like smart internet businessmen. Could you pm me your methods on how to advertise your site on message boards and make it seem like it's not a sales pitch? Thanks.
I have offered to pay for advertising space here. I have yet to get a reply. My offer still stands. We pay for advertising all over the internet. I would be happy to pay for it on Derby Trail.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:42 AM
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I have offered to pay for advertising space here. I have yet to get a reply. My offer still stands. We pay for advertising all over the internet. I would be happy to pay for it on Derby Trail.
I hope you make it big time. I like to see innovation rewarded.

The Conditional Wagering idea is a quantum leap ahead of what the big guys are offering. Right now I'm on vacation. I don't want to be tied to my computer at a specific time. If I knew I could be putting in an odds threshold for my bets, I'd bet more often and I'd make bigger bets. Even when I'm at home there are many times I'd rather put my bets in early.

Again, great idea. I'll be surprised if others don't scramble to copy you.

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PS--PillowPants, I don't like to see a self-plug either. But when the announcement includes advanced info that I wasn't aware of, I don't mind at all.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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Another thing, Pillow. It can be valuable to have a service posting here so that ideas can be suggested and complaints can be aired. I wish a top YouBet rep was posting here.

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Old 05-20-2008, 04:28 PM
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Looks like twinspires has it now too. http://www.twinspires.com/content/conditionalwagering
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:31 PM
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Looks like twinspires has it now too. http://www.twinspires.com/content/conditionalwagering
There is no way that this will work right away, they can't even stay up on the biggest day of the year, server wise.....
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:32 PM
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Let me see if I understand this.

Let's say I want to bet Casino Drive to win in the Belmont Stakes, but I am only willing to accept odds of 7-5 or higher. However, when wagering opens, his odds are 6-5, and they creep lower from there, never reaching 7-5. Does this mean I have no bet?
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:33 PM
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Let me see if I understand this.

Let's say I want to bet Casino Drive to win in the Belmont Stakes, but I am only willing to accept odds of 7-5 or higher. However, when wagering opens, his odds are 6-5, and they creep lower from there, never reaching 7-5. Does this mean I have no bet?
The bet won't get placed until 30 seconds to post or something.....

Going to cause alot of flucuations now that a larger ADW is going to offer it....
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:36 PM
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The bet won't get placed until 30 seconds to post or something.....

Going to cause alot of flucuations now that a larger ADW is going to offer it....
This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen for a lot of reasons.
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:36 PM
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This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen for a lot of reasons.
it is good for people that work that don't want to bet a horse if he goes below 5/2.....
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:38 PM
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it is good for people that work that don't want to bet a horse if he goes below 5/2.....
So what happens when the horse they don't want to bet at 5-2 moves up to 3-1, and then the ADW pours tons of money into the win pool because the threshhold has been met, and the odds drop to 9-5 and the horse loses?
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:46 PM
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So what happens when the horse they don't want to bet at 5-2 moves up to 3-1, and then the ADW pours tons of money into the win pool because the threshhold has been met, and the odds drop to 9-5 and the horse loses?
exactly
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:36 PM
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So what happens when the horse they don't want to bet at 5-2 moves up to 3-1, and then the ADW pours tons of money into the win pool because the threshhold has been met, and the odds drop to 9-5 and the horse loses?
What happens now when you are doing your own conditional wagering and that happens? It is what it is, and you have to realize this may happen. I don't see it as a reason to not offer automatic conditional wagering.
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