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Old 11-09-2007, 08:28 AM
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:10 AM
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Scuds you ready for A-Rod?
I'D rather have the REDSOX 3rd baseman...........Latinos seem to enjoy coming to play in L.A.,though.We shouldn't be talking about this.Beltre should be our 3rd baseman,but nooooooooooo
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:51 AM
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I'D rather have the REDSOX 3rd baseman...........Latinos seem to enjoy coming to play in L.A.,though.We shouldn't be talking about this.Beltre should be our 3rd baseman,but nooooooooooo
Why would you want Beltre? He was the definition of the steriod era
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:55 AM
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2004 LA 156 598 104 200 32 0 48 121 53 87 7 2 .334 .388 .629 1.017

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2007 Sea 149 595 87 164 41 2 26 99 38 104 14 2 .276 .319 .482 .801

So you want a couple more doubles and SB's for more K's, less walks, 70 point less batting average, 35 less hits and 30 less RBI's, not to mention 20 less HR's
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:57 AM
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You could have Cecil Fielder as your third basemen and it's still a step up from what my Phillies have. (Helms, and Nunez(FA) ).

Is it me or has Brad Lidge been dookie the last year and a half???
Gillick better hope this move works out. Either that or change his style of shirts, bcause if it doesnt work, Philly will be hunting down every man in an ugly Hawaiin button down.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:04 AM
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Roids:
2004 LA 156 598 104 200 32 0 48 121 53 87 7 2 .334 .388 .629 1.017

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2007 Sea 149 595 87 164 41 2 26 99 38 104 14 2 .276 .319 .482 .801

So you want a couple more doubles and SB's for more K's, less walks, 70 point less batting average, 35 less hits and 30 less RBI's, not to mention 20 less HR's
Beltre's numbers may be a function of motivation as much as roids. In 2004 he was in his contract year so was actually motivated to perform. Now he's cashed in and just going through the motions. In 2009 expect him to have another big year.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:42 AM
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Roids:
2004 LA 156 598 104 200 32 0 48 121 53 87 7 2 .334 .388 .629 1.017

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2007 Sea 149 595 87 164 41 2 26 99 38 104 14 2 .276 .319 .482 .801

So you want a couple more doubles and SB's for more K's, less walks, 70 point less batting average, 35 less hits and 30 less RBI's, not to mention 20 less HR's
He led.You don't get it.He was the leader of the team.He wasn't just a 3rd baseman.He loved playing here.He should have been signed.He is a f'n cat at 3rd base.He (pretty much by himself ) picked this team up and carried them to win the division.Gee we haven't done it since he left.Why? No f'n core,man.We got a much better team than 2004,but we don't have a leader.That team was nothing but him, Lima,and a prayer.O.K.,you guys think he wouldn't have produced.Guess what? He did about 20 million worth of production in the last 2 months of the 2004 season.So,it's a lot different when a guy like that(who has done something for you) doesn't produce.What makes me vomit is a guy like Schmidt not performing.A guy like Drew not performing.A guy like this Kent being his normal ass self(destroying any kind of chemistry.)A guy like Lowe not performing.That's tougher to take than somebody like Beltre (who is responsible for a division title.)WE WANTED THAT GUY HERE.Take a poll.You'll see that was the team leader.They just up and dumped the team leader.You wonder what's wrong with this organization? Start there.We got some youngins and a bunch of hired whores...IT'S NOT WORKING OUT. Noitalls didn't know better.You can make a good theoretical design,and end up with poop.We knew what we had with Beltre.We had a leader who cared about this team.Far as I am concerned,all involved with that stupidity should be lined up against a wall and shot with rubber bullets. They'll live. F'N weeds always live.WHERE IS DAT PIECE OF HUMAN WASTE CALLED PODESTA? DAMN CANCER
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:53 AM
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You could have Cecil Fielder as your third basemen and it's still a step up from what my Phillies have. (Helms, and Nunez(FA) ).

Is it me or has Brad Lidge been dookie the last year and a half???
Gillick better hope this move works out. Either that or change his style of shirts, bcause if it doesnt work, Philly will be hunting down every man in an ugly Hawaiin button down.
The sad part - initial report say that the Phils will not upgrade at 3B until after the season starts. Going to go into the year with Helms and Dobbs platooning. Myers prefers closing. Interesting. Lidge at Philly - well the book is still out.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:25 PM
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You could have Cecil Fielder as your third basemen and it's still a step up from what my Phillies have. (Helms, and Nunez(FA) ).

Is it me or has Brad Lidge been dookie the last year and a half???
Gillick better hope this move works out. Either that or change his style of shirts, bcause if it doesnt work, Philly will be hunting down every man in an ugly Hawaiin button down.
He has been dookie since the Pujols missile launch
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:28 PM
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He led.You don't get it.He was the leader of the team.He wasn't just a 3rd baseman.He loved playing here.He should have been signed.He is a f'n cat at 3rd base.He (pretty much by himself ) picked this team up and carried them to win the division.Gee we haven't done it since he left.Why? No f'n core,man.We got a much better team than 2004,but we don't have a leader.That team was nothing but him, Lima,and a prayer.O.K.,you guys think he wouldn't have produced.Guess what? He did about 20 million worth of production in the last 2 months of the 2004 season.So,it's a lot different when a guy like that(who has done something for you) doesn't produce.What makes me vomit is a guy like Schmidt not performing.A guy like Drew not performing.A guy like this Kent being his normal ass self(destroying any kind of chemistry.)A guy like Lowe not performing.That's tougher to take than somebody like Beltre (who is responsible for a division title.)WE WANTED THAT GUY HERE.Take a poll.You'll see that was the team leader.They just up and dumped the team leader.You wonder what's wrong with this organization? Start there.We got some youngins and a bunch of hired whores...IT'S NOT WORKING OUT. Noitalls didn't know better.You can make a good theoretical design,and end up with poop.We knew what we had with Beltre.We had a leader who cared about this team.Far as I am concerned,all involved with that stupidity should be lined up against a wall and shot with rubber bullets. They'll live. F'N weeds always live.WHERE IS DAT PIECE OF HUMAN WASTE CALLED PODESTA? DAMN CANCER
You forgot the Juan P signing...the sales topper for sure
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The sad part - initial report say that the Phils will not upgrade at 3B until after the season starts. Going to go into the year with Helms and Dobbs platooning. Myers prefers closing. Interesting. Lidge at Philly - well the book is still out.
A Rod to the Phils...it makes sense...
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:42 PM
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A Rod to the Phils...it makes sense...

we dont have room for a rod in our lineup


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Old 11-10-2007, 12:24 AM
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You forgot the Juan P signing...the sales topper for sure
Atleast he was at work each day(unlike SCHMIDT.)What did we get from J.P.? About an 800k performance for 9 million spent? Well,we got zero for the 15 mil given to Schmidt.He never looked good .He was never right.Simply damaged goods,and got away with signing while knowing he had nothing.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:11 AM
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This alternative of getting hi-priced whores (to the rescue) needs to be done by somebody with real skills.Yankees f'd it up.Dodgers f'd it up.Boston hit lotto with it......I prefer to do it like the Padres have done it.Sign team guys that can pitch.Don't be an a-hole like Podesta,and and get rid of team players that want to play for you.Don't be like that a-hole,and sign a drunk(LOWE,) A WANNABE motorcycle cop(Kent,) and a bitch loner(Drew.)
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:22 PM
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As a Yankee fan it is hard for me to admit that Boston really didn't go the whore way as much as you would think. Youkillis, Pedroiza, Varitek, Ellsbury, Papelbon, Lester and a couple of more are home grown guys (Varitek might have ben a trade). Manny was a big ticket item from a few years ago (who has been put on waivers a few times). Anyone could of had Ortiz. They traded some gems for Beckett. Dice-K was a whore moved that paid off. You would think that he will just get better. J.D. Drew stinks and Gange is a shell of his old self. Those are the only marginal whore moves that they made. I do not think that Lugo and Crisp are good enough to be considered whores. Lowell was always a solid player, he thrived in that lineup with those monsters hitting around him. They also have some young arms for the future. I really do not think of them as a whore team.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:06 PM
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As a Yankee fan it is hard for me to admit that Boston really didn't go the whore way as much as you would think. Youkillis, Pedroiza, Varitek, Ellsbury, Papelbon, Lester and a couple of more are home grown guys (Varitek might have ben a trade). Manny was a big ticket item from a few years ago (who has been put on waivers a few times). Anyone could of had Ortiz. They traded some gems for Beckett. Dice-K was a whore moved that paid off. You would think that he will just get better. J.D. Drew stinks and Gange is a shell of his old self. Those are the only marginal whore moves that they made. I do not think that Lugo and Crisp are good enough to be considered whores. Lowell was always a solid player, he thrived in that lineup with those monsters hitting around him. They also have some young arms for the future. I really do not think of them as a whore team.
SCHILLING is bought.Hey,they are getting them to perform.They don't perform in a lot of cities.I can't believe the Dodgers would spend any more on these whores.The Latin ones ,maybe.They like it more here than the others.AROD is too much dough.I really don't know what else they can do to pay for that.What are they gunna do? Charge $10 for a bag of peanuts?
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SCHILLING is bought.Hey,they are getting them to perform.They don't perform in a lot of cities.I can't believe the Dodgers would spend any more on these whores.The Latin ones ,maybe.They like it more here than the others.AROD is too much dough.I really don't know what else they can do to pay for that.What are they gunna do? Charge $10 for a bag of peanuts?
Schilling is a winner and a competitor. That's the difference with him. I do not know what the Dodgers usually draw, but A-Rod would put some fannys in the seats. I do that think if A-Rod ends up in Cali, it is going to be with the Halo's not the Dodgers. Also there has been alot of talk about A-Rod and Torre, some tend to believe that A-Rod doesn't have the greatest feelings about Torre since he batted 8th against the Tigers last year. Who knows? I think the Halos are the early favorite followed by the Mets and I do not count the Yanks out yet. You never know with that organization.
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Schilling is a winner and a competitor. That's the difference with him. I do not know what the Dodgers usually draw, but A-Rod would put some fannys in the seats. I do that think if A-Rod ends up in Cali, it is going to be with the Halo's not the Dodgers. Also there has been alot of talk about A-Rod and Torre, some tend to believe that A-Rod doesn't have the greatest feelings about Torre since he batted 8th against the Tigers last year. Who knows? I think the Halos are the early favorite followed by the Mets and I do not count the Yanks out yet. You never know with that organization.
That's a lot of money for the Halos to spend on one guy,but they probably need him the most.Dodgers can't afford anymore bad signings.The very 1st thing the Dodgers need to do is to get Kent to retire.Just go take a motorcycle apart,and get lost.No way we can have that cancer around anymore.We don't have the talent to overcome that kind of bad chemistry that he brings to teams.What would the Mets do with the 3rd baseman they got?
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That's a lot of money for the Halos to spend on one guy,but they probably need him the most.Dodgers can't afford anymore bad signings.The very 1st thing the Dodgers need to do is to get Kent to retire.Just go take a motorcycle apart,and get lost.No way we can have that cancer around anymore.We don't have the talent to overcome that kind of bad chemistry that he brings to teams.What would the Mets do with the 3rd baseman they got?
Wright said that he would move to first base if he had to. I still can't believe that he won a gold glove, he make a lot of tough plays. But it seems that he makes a lot of errors on the routine ones. The move that they would probably make is moving Reyes to second. Hell if they could move him to second for Kaz Matzui (who was absolutley awful during his time at shea) then they could move him for the best player in the game.
As far as Jeff Kent goes, you are spot on about him being a cancer in the locker room. I vaguely remember a story about him when he was with the Mets. It was on of those late season pranks. I do not remeber if it was the whole team or not? But it involved someone on the team taking his street clothes and replacing it with a dress. I know the Yanks haze the rookies that way on the last road trip every year. But Kent went nuts, he even went to the media with it. You could see right there that this wasn't a big TEAM guy.
I was just looking at the Dodgers stats and you are right they need a huge infusion of offense. When 20 HR's and 87 Rbi's are the top offensive numbers for a team, your pitching better be tremendous (see D'Backs). Obviously getting nothing out of Schmidt was huge, Loiaza is a retread and Wells should hang em up. Penny was very good and I personally like Wolf (he always pitched well when I saw him). I personally have never like Derek Lowe. I think he pitched his best during the biggest tittle run in the history of baseball (2004 Red Sox). He was tremendous when the whole world was watching and then he cashed in for it. I think he is a mutt. Saito seems solid, I like Proctor, but the rest of the pen seems suspect (Proctor included).
It does seem that they have youth on there side. Gonzalez won't be back, maybe they can get Jose Guillen (although he does fit in that Milton Bradley category). Maybe trade Nomar for an arm, sign a guy like Jeff Cirillo for a year or two. The offense needs to be upgraded, it seems like they have a few arms (if they can stay healthy). I am guessing that the Rockies are the favorites for the west next year. I do not think the D'backs can do it again the way that they did it last year (winning 2-0 every game). The Giants stink and I do not know what the problem with the Padres are (I thought they were the best team in the west). 90 wins got 2 teams from the west into the playoffs, can the Dodgers with the right moves make up the 8 that they lost by?
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:44 AM
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Well,i'll tell ya something.When ya got a guy like Lowe going out there and giving up 6 runs by the end of the 2nd inning,it doesn't do much for team chemistry either.That fkn low-life has got to come correct.He looks great sometimes,but too often he is not doing his job.There is 5 games(of the ten games you're speaking about....come correct ya drunk.)Penney is gunna have to start pitching a lot better in August and September.There is atleast another 3 wins right there.Get rid of Kent,and ya get atleast 3 wins extra(instantly.)I'd like to know how many game-winning hits that guy has had for us.He is real good at getting hits with 2 outs and nobody on.Good at getting home runs with nobody on the bases.Team has no leader.That **** gotta stop right away.Garciaparra was a pretty decent leader in 2006,but he wore dress in 2007.Look,they gave the f'n bank away to Schmidt,Pierre,Garciaparra,Lowe,Kent,and Furcal,and Penney.None of them did their job in 2006.Grady should have been fired the day after the season was over.Pathetic that they let him resign.F'n be accountable and fire that useless waste .Furcal will be a lot better this year.He was hurt all season,and just kept playing.I doubt Penney will pitch well in the last 2 months.He just blows his wad the 1st half.There is enough talent.We never get guys that will hit.No matter what you pay,these fkrs won't hit in L.A.......NOT FOR POWER.AGAIN,THIS IS THE ONE TEAM THAT STOOD OUT FOR TORRE TO TAKE.One look and he can see that these guys were not performing to their ability.One of these bitches should be hit'n 30 home runs a year.No excuse for them all to consistently wear dress at the plate.It's just pathetic management.We can't get anybody to take Garciaparra.I told these guys on here not to trust that guy with that big contract.Even if it was only 2 years.He was useless against the Mets in the playoffs.He was hurt.Hurt or slumping.They are just to quick with that checkbook.Most of the guys we have,we have cuz our GM (S) were the only ones stupid enough to pay these guys all the money the aren't worth.Furcal(when healthy) is a pretty good player...K,but he ain't worth whateva silly money they gave him.The Padres were the best team,but it hurt them when Young got hurt.That's the most sound team.Their reliever is simply a playoff choker.That's why they didn't make it this year(both games right? ...They had chances,but Trevor choked both Saturday,and Monday.)I mean that's a fact.He is a choke in the post.
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