Why do I like AGS so much?

[packerbacker7964]

I like him and I don't know why. He has the running style that I like I think. He has a great race thrown in with a subpar right before the Derby. The only thing is if J.V. is riding him I'll stay away at all cost. I also like Street Sense because he has the Thunder Gulch look in the Blues Grass. Barely a hard run for the horse and has that turn it up on a dime button I think. I'll put these two on top of the usual 7-10 in tri's and Execta's and Hope for the best.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

I like him and I don't know why. He has the running style that I like I think. He has a great race thrown in with a subpar right before the Derby. The only thing is if J.V. is riding him I'll stay away at all cost. I also like Street Sense because he has the Thunder Gulch look in the Blues Grass. Barely a hard run for the horse and has that turn it up on a dime button I think. I'll put these two on top of the usual 7-10 in tri's and Execta's and Hope for the best.

Gomez is riding AGS. JV will be aboard CQ.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

I like him and I don't know why. He has the running style that I like I think. He has a great race thrown in with a subpar right before the Derby. The only thing is if J.V. is riding him I'll stay away at all cost. I also like Street Sense because he has the Thunder Gulch look in the Blues Grass. Barely a hard run for the horse and has that turn it up on a dime button I think. I'll put these two on top of the usual 7-10 in tri's and Execta's and Hope for the best.

JV is riding Circular Quay. Garrett Gomez is riding Any Given Saturday.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

I like him and I don't know why. He has the running style that I like I think. He has a great race thrown in with a subpar right before the Derby. The only thing is if J.V. is riding him I'll stay away at all cost. I also like Street Sense because he has the Thunder Gulch look in the Blues Grass. Barely a hard run for the horse and has that turn it up on a dime button I think. I'll put these two on top of the usual 7-10 in tri's and Execta's and Hope for the best.

You might like him because he has shown the ability to run a fast race.
Most of the field has not.

[Cajungator26]

And Prado is up on the winner again.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

And Prado is up on the winner again.

Oh really? I thought he was still on Scat Daddy. Guess not.

[AeWingnut]

It's hard to like a horse that as never been over 5-1 in his life. I mean .. what kinda adversity has he ever faced. I know this is really weak rationale but hey... he must've been in some easy races or races that looked easy

They didn't take him to Gulfstream, they took him to Tampa Bay. Then when it looked like Street Sense was going good they switched plans and tried him against Nobiz

Did Nobiz look like he was easier to beat and AGS needs everything to be easy
?

SS is my horse. I know he had a prep at Tam but it was his first race back and need a easier start first out. IMSO

Maybe you can tell me why you like AGS. I would really like to know. honest

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Oh really? I thought he was still on Scat Daddy.

Scat Daddy has the proper number of syllables but don't know what to think about working out with Bar shoes?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

It's hard to like a horse that as never been over 5-1 in his life. I mean .. what kinda adversity has he ever faced. I know this is really weak rationale but hey... he must've been in some easy races or races that looked easy

They didn't take him to Gulfstream, they took him to Tampa Bay. Then when it looked like Street Sense was going good they switched plans and tried him against Nobiz

Did Nobiz look like he was easier to beat and AGS needs everything to be easy
?

SS is my horse. I know he had a prep at Tam but it was his first race back and need a easier start first out. IMSO

Maybe you can tell me why you like AGS. I would really like to know. honest

What? I am not saying he is going to be the winner, but I don't follow your logic here one bit. Who cares what his odds were in other races? You thought his Tampa Bay Derby was easy because he was the favorite? He was in a stretch battle with the 2yo champ!
Honestly, your post doesn't make any sense to me at all.

[Scurlogue Champ]

I think AGS is a one-paced dog who will show his cards on Saturday when he finishes 8th.

[packerbacker7964]

Well he's raced from off the pace early in his career. I think he likes it more than being put in the race before he's ready.
71 beyer in Maiden score out of the 11 hole
2nd race Kee 1 1/16 Sweeping 5 wide rally
100 beyer to Tizwonderfull by 1/2 length
95 beyer in 3 yearold debut 1:44 ridden out
102 Beyer loss by a nose in 1:43
Then he throws in the Wood Clunker. I'm the greatest Handicapper of all time and I have an off day from time to time. ha ha ha

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by miraja2

What? I am not saying he is going to be the winner, but I don't follow your logic here one bit. Who cares what his odds were in other races? You thought his Tampa Bay Derby was easy because he was the favorite? He was in a stretch battle with the 2yo champ!
Honestly, your post doesn't make any sense to me at all.

yes, for the Tampa Bay Derby he was in a stretch battle with a short horse. He has been favored in almost every race. ie - no on else was supposed to be good enough to beat him and he still lost. I can't remember all of his races. Just a different derby angle - guess you think it needs work.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

Just a different derby angle - guess you think it needs work.

Ummmm yeah a little. I think considering level of competition is wise, but I think AGS has actually faced pretty good competition both last year and this year. Does that mean he will win on Saturday? No, but I don't think the fact that he has "never been over 5-1 in his lifetime" is a good reason to toss him.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

I like him and I don't know why. He has the running style that I like I think. He has a great race thrown in with a subpar right before the Derby. The only thing is if J.V. is riding him I'll stay away at all cost. I also like Street Sense because he has the Thunder Gulch look in the Blues Grass. Barely a hard run for the horse and has that turn it up on a dime button I think. I'll put these two on top of the usual 7-10 in tri's and Execta's and Hope for the best.

I think AGS had no shot in the WOOD. Todd P. wasn't pointing for that spot if you recall. He went to get the 75k he needed to get in and that turned out to be brilliant because he could of easily ran 5th in the BG. Here's to hoping the AGS, SS exacta pays over $80.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

It's hard to like a horse that as never been over 5-1 in his life. I mean .. what kinda adversity has he ever faced. I know this is really weak rationale but hey... he must've been in some easy races or races that looked easy

They didn't take him to Gulfstream, they took him to Tampa Bay. Then when it looked like Street Sense was going good they switched plans and tried him against Nobiz

Did Nobiz look like he was easier to beat and AGS needs everything to be easy
?

SS is my horse. I know he had a prep at Tam but it was his first race back and need a easier start first out. IMSO

Maybe you can tell me why you like AGS. I would really like to know. honest

Well Pletcher sent Bluegrass Cat to Tampa last year and we saw how that turned out. . . Those two horses seem pretty similar to me. . .

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Ummmm yeah a little. I think considering level of competition is wise, but I think AGS has actually faced pretty good competition both last year and this year. Does that mean he will win on Saturday? No, but I don't think the fact that he has "never been over 5-1 in his lifetime" is a good reason to toss him.

Well, how much competition can there be with 6 starts with a maiden and allowance race that leaves 4 races and it's not his fault who shows up in his race.

there's 20 horses. I have to broaden my rationale.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

They didn't take him to Gulfstream, they took him to Tampa Bay. Then when it looked like Street Sense was going good they switched plans and tried him against Nobiz

So what if they didn't take him to Gulfstream? What are you implying? That he isn't as good as Pletcher's other horses, otherwise he would've taken him to GP? Perhaps he didn't want to throw in a three-start horse against his more seasoned charge in Scat Daddy and another superstar in Nobiz..

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I think AGS is a one-paced dog who will show his cards on Saturday when he finishes 8th.

I wholeheartedly disagree. At first, I was annoyed that Pletcher decided to take him off the pace, but after discussing it with Steve, we agreed that it's probably a better idea than sending him. I think he's got the best shot of the Pletcher quintet to win.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

Well he's raced from off the pace early in his career. I think he likes it more than being put in the race before he's ready.
71 beyer in Maiden score out of the 11 hole
2nd race Kee 1 1/16 Sweeping 5 wide rally
100 beyer to Tizwonderfull by 1/2 length
95 beyer in 3 yearold debut 1:44 ridden out
102 Beyer loss by a nose in 1:43
Then he throws in the Wood Clunker. I'm the greatest Handicapper of all time and I have an off day from time to time. ha ha ha

I seldom cash but I'm too stubborn to listen to anyone else.

I guess those are sound reasons to play him. I will probably put him in it if the price is right. (15-1 +) Just not too excited about his last 2 preps.
Including the TB Derby.

[packerbacker7964]

Street Sense pulled ahead of him in the Tampa Derby and he came right back at him. I think he was ahead of after the wire a jump or two. I'd like to see him settle a little and come with his run. He came home in the Wood alittle sideways but he came over come that with good training. I think he and Street Sense are my picks barring a bad Derby Draw.

[brianwspencer]

He's without a doubt my second choice in the race behind Street Sense. I think he's got a great shot in the Derby and the price will be right given the clunker in the Wood.