DRF subscribers question

[Grits]

Questions are twofold.

For all here that use DRF pps, do you subscribe to Simulcast Weekly, using their charts as well? If so, do you find the subscription worthwhile? I ask, because four years ago, I had this, but I discontinued it because it was taking DRF two weeks or more, to get each preceeding week's hard copy to me.

I don't want the online daily, I tire of reading online. Hard copy is preferrable.

Also, for all that use DRF, in doing so, with the new Moss Pace figures added, it indicates the price to be something like $3.75, vs $2.50 for Formulator pps. (This being a day rate for one card, rather than a month, etc.)

Do ALL FORMULATOR 4 pps have to have these figs? And is there any difference between Formulator Basic pps, and Formulator 4 pps with Moss figures, other than the addition of Moss, etc? Does the software capability vary?

Thanks in advance.

[philcski]

question 1, DRF Weekly: not really. Most charts/videos (even better) are available for free, and I found that my collection of DRF Weeklys were sitting in a corner collecting dust.

question 2: I haven't found much value in the Moss Pace figures, mostly because there doesn't seem to be a proper adjustment of the Pace numerical value for the distance of the race; i.e. a horse that earned a 100 pace figure at a mile then turns back to 6F, would be very hard pressed to duplicate that 100 pace value at 6F.
A 50% markup seems fair if they interest you, but I'm guessing you'll end up feeling the same way.

[Grits]

Phil, thank you for replying.

The Moss figs have no appeal here either. I use Bris pace figures consistently, but I don't get Moss's deal at all.

g

[2 Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by Grits

Phil, thank you for replying.

The Moss figs have no appeal here either. I use Bris pace figures consistently, but I don't get Moss's deal at all.

g

Moss Figures = DFR price increases.... I belive its called Marketing

[Grits]

Marketing, solely, I doubt it, they're not available yet to all tracks, and at this point I don't see great use.

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill

Moss Figures = DFR price increases.... I belive its called Marketing

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Grits

Phil, thank you for replying.

The Moss figs have no appeal here either. I use Bris pace figures consistently, but I don't get Moss's deal at all.

g

I haven't used the Bris much but I definitely like them better overall. Maybe if we had a good explanation of how they are calculated we'd like them better?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill

Moss Figures = DFR price increases.... I belive its called Marketing

The Moss figures are only available on line and have nothing to do with the price increase for the newspaper.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The Moss figures are only available on line and have nothing to do with the price increase for the newspaper.

Could you answer my questions when time allows?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Grits

Questions are twofold.

For all here that use DRF pps, do you subscribe to Simulcast Weekly, using their charts as well? If so, do you find the subscription worthwhile? I ask, because four years ago, I had this, but I discontinued it because it was taking DRF two weeks or more, to get each preceeding week's hard copy to me.

I don't want the online daily, I tire of reading online. Hard copy is preferrable.

Also, for all that use DRF, in doing so, with the new Moss Pace figures added, it indicates the price to be something like $3.75, vs $2.50 for Formulator pps. (This being a day rate for one card, rather than a month, etc.)

Do ALL FORMULATOR 4 pps have to have these figs? And is there any difference between Formulator Basic pps, and Formulator 4 pps with Moss figures, other than the addition of Moss, etc? Does the software capability vary?

Thanks in advance.

I quoted so I wouldn't miss anything.

I subscribe to Simulcast Daily and use it nearly every day. I'm too far away to make it worthwhile getting it by mail, and it was always slow anyway.

Formulator 4 does not have Moss figures. They are available in PDF only. There is a big difference between Basic and F4 PPs, but as stated, it has nothing to do with Moss figures. It gives the ability to search tons of trainer stats, as well as charts of each entrants races, and the ability to see the PPs of any the horses in any of the charts.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The Moss figures are only available on line and have nothing to do with the price increase for the newspaper.

They increased the price for the DRF?

[Grits]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I quoted so I wouldn't miss anything.

I subscribe to Simulcast Daily and use it nearly every day. I'm too far away to make it worthwhile getting it by mail, and it was always slow anyway.

Formulator 4 does not have Moss figures. They are available in PDF only. There is a big difference between Basic and F4 PPs, but as stated, it has nothing to do with Moss figures. It gives the ability to search tons of trainer stats, as well as charts of each entrants races, and the ability to see the PPs of any the horses in any of the charts.

Thank you for responding CM., especially regarding Simulcast Daily.

I know there's a great difference between basic pps, and Formulator, as Formulator is interactive. My greater concern . . . I've downloaded Formulator 4, are there differences between that and other Formulator software that I'm not aware of. And does one use Formulator 4 only?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

They increased the price for the DRF?

$5.50 now... not that that's an unfair price. They could charge $10 and I would still buy it.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Grits

Thank you for responding CM., especially regarding Simulcast Daily.

I know there's a great difference between basic pps, and Formulator, as Formulator is interactive. My greater concern . . . I've downloaded Formulator 4, are there differences between that and other Formulator software that I'm not aware of. And does one use Formulator 4 only?

The software is the same, only the files are different. The latest F4 does have some stuff built in to try and prevent file sharing. I don't do that, so I don't know how well it works, but it can be a hassle when you switch computers.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

The software is the same, only the files are different. The latest F4 does have some stuff built in to try and prevent file sharing. I don't do that, so I don't know how well it works, but it can be a hassle when you switch computers.

Thank you for your posts Cm. Have a good weekend.

And cash some winners!

[robfla]

on another note: can someone tell me why on earth formulator files leave out designations whether a particular horse is triple crown or breeders cup eligible?

I think this is very useful info

the regular PPs have it.