yeah, that Garret Gomez really Sucks

[dalakhani]

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

Yeah it cracks me up too. The 2nd leading jockey in the US and people call him stupid. If he is stupid then what are the trainers that use him? I guess they are even more stupid because they employ a stupid rider.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That ride he just gave Octave in the Adirondack was just total crap. I mean, it was just pure luck that Octace won at 9-1 and it was just dumb luck that Gomez sat off of a sizzling pace and had his horse in perfect position to pounce in midstretch.

Yeah, you guys are right...Gomez really sucks. Pletcher should find a smarter rider.

It was a great ride, but he was the benefit of a stupid ride by Jara.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Yeah it cracks me up too. The 2nd leading jockey in the US and people call him stupid. If he is stupid then what are the trainers that use him? I guess they are even more stupid because they employ a stupid rider.

Yeah, they discussed that on ATRAB recently. I think b/c Gomez has had some issues in the past, people are generally harder on him. He is a very skilled rider who does tend to take some risks out there and sometimes they don't pan out.

[Nostradamus]

Gomez is a top 5 rider. I would only take J. Velasquez over him on dirt or turf and C. Velasquez on the turf.

[AeWingnut]

people are quick to give P Val a break and as far as I know Garret Gomez has not relapsed or fallen back into his drug habit.

He was winning plenty of races before and after a short time at the bottom has worked his way back up there.

I don' think Gomez is to blame for Ace losing the Millio

Now, Desormeaux.. I have no clue with him
so I guess we're even

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Yeah,it's true.Him winning on this 9-1 has cleansed my memory of T.M BLING's ride.It's as if it never happened.That race last week that Coa schooled him in didn't happen either.They pale in comparison to winning this race on a 9-1 filly in 1:19.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

people are quick to give P Val a break and as far as I know Garret Gomez has not relapsed or fallen back into his drug habit.

He was winning plenty of races before and after a short time at the bottom has worked his way back up there.

I don' think Gomez is to blame for Ace losing the Millio

Now, Desormeaux.. I have no clue with him
so I guess we're even

Of course Gomez isnt to blame for ACE losing the million. The oldest cliche in racing "pace makes the race" and ACE needs a ton of it to be effective. All one had to do is look at the pps to know that ACE had little chance of winning the million.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yeah,it's true.Him winning on this 9-1 has cleansed my memory of T.M BLING's ride.It's as if it never happened.That race last week that Coa schooled him in didn't happen either.They pale in comparison to winning this race on a 9-1 filly in 1:19.

Have you ever even ridden a riding pony? Try it some time. No one ever said Gomez was perfect. He has his share of rides that are questionable just like all of the rest of them.

You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. There are probably hundreds of others that he brought home that no one will bring up or remember later.

The fact of the matter is a "dumb" rider wouldnt have given that ride today. Heck, I would have loved to have seen all of you guys crying if Garret had ridden the 1 horse that Johnny V burned up before the turn. Not to say that it was JV's fault as he had little choice breaking from the rail. Just to say that Gomez seems to be under an unfair microscope and if you guys are going to point out every mistake he makes i figure i can point out the times he does a nice job.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

"You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. "


Trust me.People don't forget bad rides,and people especially don't forget bad rides on the best horse in the race.They just don't.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

"You bring up a ride on some horse that no one will remember a month from now. "


Trust me.People don't forget bad rides,and people especially don't forget bad rides on the best horse in the race.They just don't.

Bull****. if this were true, why would Baffert ride him again? Trainers forgive bad rides all the time. If not, there would be no one to ride the horses.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Bull****. if this were true, why would Baffert ride him again? Trainers forgive bad rides all the time. If not, there would be no one to ride the horses.

Yeah,because he uses him again,it means he doesn't remember the ride? Jock is off the hook with any Baffert from the 1 hole in a sprint like that.Jock could cut off half the field and Baffert would say it was all caused by the 1 hole,and that he takes the blame for even racing the horse at all from the 1 hole.Baffert thinks JEWS N' ARABS ARE FIGHTIN' CUZ OF THE 1 HOLE.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yeah,because he uses him again,it means he doesn't remember the ride? Jock is off the hook with any Baffert from the 1 hole in a sprint like that.Jock could cut off half the field and Baffert would say it was all caused by the 1 hole,and that he takes the blame for even racing the horse at all from the 1 hole.Baffert thinks JEWS N' ARABS ARE FIGHTIN' CUZ OF THE 1 HOLE.

Who cares if he remembers the ride or not if he puts him back up on other mounts. Im sure Baffert remembers some of the winners he brought home as well.

I dont know what this has to do with the one hole or jew or arabs. This simply has to do with you not being able to make a logical point to support your ill- conceived argument. I would expect no less.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

This guy makes people bet on him and not just the horse he is on and it is killing the prices on most of his horses. Its like the way Pat Day was in Kentucky and Jerry Bailey was in NY you just got to bet on them cause you know if you don't they will burn you

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yeah,because he uses him again,it means he doesn't remember the ride? Jock is off the hook with any Baffert from the 1 hole in a sprint like that.Jock could cut off half the field and Baffert would say it was all caused by the 1 hole,and that he takes the blame for even racing the horse at all from the 1 hole.Baffert thinks JEWS N' ARABS ARE FIGHTIN' CUZ OF THE 1 HOLE.

If your talkin about Too Much Bling yep the 1 Post screwed him

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I remember you (Dalakhani) now.You are that Hezbollah sympathizer.You're the one who goes on and on like a rabid animal. You could turn this into a 5 page thread.You're just about the most argumentative little btch on here.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I remember you (Dalakhani) now.You are that Hezbollah sympathizer.You're the one who goes on and on like a rabid animal. You could turn this into a 5 page thread.Your just about the most argumentative little btch on here.

and YOU'RE about the most ignorant.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

By the way,most all of us agree that he can do what he did here(rate off the pace with a 9-1,and come late.)He has done this very well.This is more of the same.The question is can he make good decisions when he is on the chalk.This is the question.Can he avoid being locked in by the other jocks?Can he make good decisions when wearing the target? This is the concern with this guy(not his ability to ride bombs from off the pace...we all agree he is good at that.) I haven't seen him really mess up much on anything 7/2 or better.

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by oracle80

It was indeed pure luck and you obviously didnt see teh race if you don't know that. Gomez was "all in" on the turn pumping as hard as he could and losing ground behind the dueling leaders. They blistered fractions and he caught them late. Its also his first win since Friday. Gee, thats just swell. A guy riding nothing but live horses wins one race in 4 racing days, wow, he should go straight in the hall of fame for that one!!! LOL!!! Umm, how many guys is he trailing up here?

I don't think he is trailing as many as 1st predicted, and considering its his 1st meet at Saratoga he has faired better than most. He is just a better rider than most.