Autobahn Girl

[GPK]

Good to see her in the winners circle again. I thought early on she was capable of being one of the better 3yo's this year, but obviously I was wrong. Maybe there was some physical issues?

9th Race
Pago Hop S.

Next Post 5:12 Off: 4:44 | About 1 Mile (Turf) | 3 Year Olds | Stakes | Purse: $60,000

# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
12 Autobahn Girl Patin J W Jr 117 61.80 23.60 12.20
7 Our Dancing Babe Lanerie C J 117 11.20 7.00
13 Beautiful Venue Graham J 123 8.40


Times in 5ths: :24 :481 1:14 1:383

Times in 100ths: :24.07 :48.36 1:14.09 1:38.68

Scratched: Final Refrain and Lemony Cricket

Also ran: Eight Eighty Eight, Buy the Barrel, Block, Aidan's Bella, Winsome Ways, Melissa's Dream, Blue Angel, Bold Angel and Shesa Little Flirt

Winning Trainer: Pierce Malcolm - Owner: Live Oak Plantation

$2 Exacta (12-7) Paid $651.40

$2 Trifecta (12-7-13) Paid $10,418.40

$2 Superfecta (12-7-13-4) Paid $37,924.00

$2 Pick 3 (6-2-12) 3 Correct Paid $1,332.20 Pick 3 Pool $11,569

[golfer]

I'm sure others have more specifics about her, but one thing I know is she changed hands from Zito to Pierce. She ran a non-descript comeback race in Canada about a month ago, then ran huge yesterday while very wide through-out. Was actually the highlight of my wagering day, as I had a small win bet on her.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by golfer

I'm sure others have more specifics about her, but one thing I know is she changed hands from Zito to Pierce. She ran a non-descript comeback race in Canada about a month ago, then ran huge yesterday while very wide through-out. Was actually the highlight of my wagering day, as I had a small win bet on her.

I thought of asking Andy....but I hesitate in pulling him away from his "list"


Glad you had some win $$ on her Seth.

[freddymo]

At least she is in good hands now?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by GPK

I thought of asking Andy....but I hesitate in pulling him away from his "list"


Glad you had some win $$ on her Seth.

I didn't cash a dollar on her, though she gave me some very fun moments in the finale after she opened my late double up. Was sitting on anywhere from $500-$1500 depending on who won the closer....needless to say, it was not any of the horses I needed.

She looked great though.

[sumitas]

Wonderful to see her come back to her form. She is 3/4 to multi-millionaire Golden Missile. They have the same AP Indy-Cure the Blues cross.

[VOL JACK]

DAMN IT !! I could of got the money I bet on her in the KY oaks back.
Had good size doubles to Street w her, and big exactas w Rags.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Wonderful to see her come back to her form. She is 3/4 to multi-millionaire Golden Missile. They have the same AP Indy-Cure the Blues cross.

While they do have the same cross....they come from different dams.

Autobahn Girl is out of the excellent sprinting race mare Saoirise.

Golden Missile is out of Santa Catalina

Thus, she is not 3/4 to GM.

[sumitas]

She is 3/4 to Golden Missile. They share 3 out of 4 grand parents making them 3/4 to each other. They share the same cross, therefore they are 3/4 to each other. This is not a tough concept.

Furthermore, Golden Missile has 3 reines de course in his family. Judy O'Grady, Agnes Sard, and Blue Denim. His family is solid. Autobahn Girl has 3 reines on her family line. Beaver Street, Stolen Kiss, and Mitrailleuse.

If they also shared the same dam they would be FULL siblings. Because they share 3 out of 4 grandparents they are 3/4 to each other. Just like Desert Warrior is 3/4 to Go Deputy and Dehere.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by sumitas

She is 3/4 to Golden Missile. They share 3 out of 4 grand parents making them 3/4 to each other. They share the same cross, therefore they are 3/4 to each other. This is not a tough concept.

Oh brother!

Ok - let's say that Autobahn Girl was by Slew City Slew out of her real dam Saorise (a Cure the Blues mare)

And Golden Missile is by his real sire A. P. Indy out of his real dam Santa Catalina (a Cure the Blues mare)

They would share 2 out of the 4 grandparents and WOULD NOT be half siblings.

In horse racing, you have to come from the same dam to be any kind of a sibling to a horse.

While if they were humans you'd be right, You are confusing having the same cross with being a 75% sibling in horse racing terms.

No one said that Z Humor was a 3/4 sibling to Any Given Saturday because he shared the same cross (sire and dam sire) - they both came from different mares!

[blackthroatedwind]

Why bother?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

An example of what would be considered a 3/4 sibling would be....

Bold Legacy - by Seattle Slew out of the mare Cara Rafeala

Bernardini - by A. P. Indy (a son of Seattle Slew) out of the mare Cara Rafeala.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why bother?

Exactly my thoughts bud. 3/4 means 3 out of the same 4 grandparents. Simple. Except for you 2 simpletons who insist on over analyzing everything.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why bother?

True.

I showed good restraint earlier in the day - with Sniper's analogy of saying Daheer losing at Fort Erie was equal to saying Pleasantly Perfect, Azeri, and Birdstone all lost at Lone Star...because the POW is Fort Erie's most important race.

When, in fact, the correct analogy would have been made using Skip Away and Midnight Lute's sire Real Quiet - who both were upset in the Texas Mile at Lone Star. The young tracks most important race.

You're right though...as usual.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Exactly my thoughts bud. 3/4 means 3 out of the same 4 grandparents. Simple. Except for you 2 simpletons who insist on over analyzing everything.

Let me quote the brilliant DrugS....." oh brother. "

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

True.

I showed good restraint earlier in the day - with Sniper's analogy of saying Daheer losing at Fort Erie was equal to saying Pleasantly Perfect, Azeri, and Birdstone all lost at Lone Star...because the POW is Fort Erie's most important race.

When, in fact, the correct analogy would have been made using Skip Away and Midnight Lute's sire Real Quiet - who both were upset in the Texas Mile at Lone Star. The young tracks most important race.

You're right though...as usual.

Apologize to Sniper for lumping him in with this insanity.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by sumitas

She is 3/4 to Golden Missile. They share 3 out of 4 grand parents making them 3/4 to each other. They share the same cross, therefore they are 3/4 to each other. This is not a tough concept.

Apparently it is for you.

[Payson Dave]

Sumitas...I see that when you came to the fork in the trail...you took the path least traveled....in this case I think it has just gotten you lost..

[sumitas]

No sir. I subscribe to the www.pedigreequery.com definition of 3/4 cross even if I don't have your all permission. 3/4 is a simple way to describe that 2 horses share the same 3 grand parents. If you want to amend that further, and further, and further, far be it for me to tell you not to.

[Indian Charlie]

So, if two horses share the same four grandparents, does that make them twins?

Full siblings?

Clones?

Closely related?