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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Zig, I don't believe we shouldn't act period. This civil war poses no definable threat to the US. Zero. Any imagined threat is simply just more unsubstantiated fear mongering by the war machine in order to continue to perpetuate itself.

I think it's pretty clear that an American attack, without the sanction of the United Nations, the support of allies, the authorization of Congress -- or, it must be said, much hope of meaningful success -- would violate the Constitution. As Jack Goldsmith writes in Lawfare, it "will push presidential war power beyond where it has gone before.",

Given this president's complete and utter disregard for the document, I guess we can expect to see the same outcomes as we've seen in Iraq, Egypt, Lybia, et al. where we've stuck our nose into other sovereign nation's matters, involved the lives of our sons and daughters along with billions upon billions of dollars we don't have, only to cut and run after we've created the mess, all under the auspices of the self-proclaimed "World Police".

Meanwhile our infrastructure continues to collapse, major cities declare bankruptcy, welfare soars to it's highest level in recorded history - and THIS is the main focus. I must be the crazy one.

Almost exactly my position on invading Iraq 10 1/2 years ago..any action here w/o Congress,U.N. and allies aboard...please abort...and absolutely no ground troops!...What scares me is McCain and Boner are on board with Obama