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Old 11-14-2006, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
But Timm, NOT giving them a shot that would protect them against cervical cancer caused by genital warts is using a fear tactic. Which is morally reprehensible, as far as I'm concerned. And since your 20-year-old acquaintance still had the surgery, it clearly didn't work in her case- the fear tactic, that is. So are you glad she had cancer surgery because that taught her a lesson?

Timm, you also went to school some time ago-- have you checked into Bush's abstinence only sex ed recently? And have you checked the success rates on it? Google and you'll find some interesting stuff on what a colossal waste of money it's been. Kids aren't getting the sex ed you and I got.

Speaking as a woman who was going to the gyno long before I had sex (my mom died of breast cancer when she was 35 so my dad started sending me to the gyno at age 13), cervical exams are fracking painful if you still have a hymen (I still remember my first exam after I'd become sexually active and it was a truly beautiful moment not to leave the office in tears from the pain). It's pretty abusive to suggest giving girls routine cervical exams rather than a shot, don't you think?

Timm, one still has to contend with, oh, herpes, AIDS, chlamydia, gonorreha, crabs, etc. if one has unprotected sex. And of course, the big P. (pregnancy) To say giving girls a shot that might save their lives due to one virus will promote promiscuity is a wee bit extremist, don't you think?

If the vaccine is offered to your kids' kids, will you tell your kids not to let their daughters get it?

You also, I assume from your line about drawing the line about other people making these kinds of decisions for kids, are opposed to measles, mumps, rubella and tetanus vaccinations? Kids are required to get those to go to school. Did you kids get them?

Speaking as someone who saw her mom die of cancer, it sucks. Anything as simple as a vaccine for at least one kind of cancer is a good thing and should be available to all girls. Period.
GR: Boy,give you a nickel and.... Seriously though,this girls' surgery was 20yrs ago and it was a big dark secret(her parents were Christian Science) Having one go through surgery to teach a lesson is Draconian! But I dont see this as fear tactic. The preponderance of drugs(ill and legal)is overwhelming, and as we're finding out,some of these drugs don't live up to the hype. I'm all for the regular shots and immunization,but giving a shot to a girl who may or may not become sexually active as a stopgap to possibly treating a cancerous wart is bad medicine,as far as I'm concerned! As far as STD's...I'm so glad I'm out of the dating pool(some stats say 25-30% of women have some type of communicable disease) My Mom died from lung cancer when I was 37,brother 3yrs ago-heart,Dad 2yr ago-reckless driver...so I'm pretty well acquainted with the process. As far as gyno exams, I know from my wifes' history,it pays to have a gentle Doctor who warms the instruments, and still its' not one of her faves to schedule. My daughter is 29 and I've been worried that she has never been to gyno...I'd rather deal with it than have it sneak up on us. That's my story..and I'm stickin to it! Best Timm
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