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Old 10-25-2012, 04:46 PM
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Never said that improvements couldn't be made. But that 2200+ page bill and all the bureaucrats it will put in between you and your doctor is not the answer.
There are no bureaucrats put between you and your doctor, Joey. Zero additional bureaucrats. Just the same as always. Except your insurance company can't abuse you.
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And the proponents of the bill really wanted (and still want) "single payer" - socialized medicine.
Absolutely single payer, but that's not "socialized medicine". Medicare for everyone would insure every person in the US and decrease our healthcare costs by 1/2. That would be awesome.

Right now, Medicare is extremely efficient, very low-cost (half the cost) with better outcomes, than our comparable private insurance companies.

There is a difference between government run hospitals and group insurance from the government, Joey = two different things. We'll never have National Health Care ("socialized" as you fearfully call it)

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The closer you make insurance to a true market based entity the better.
No. The US is the only true "market based" insurance (private insurance), and it is a disaster, and the most expensive in the world, with exceedingly poor outcomes for the dollar.
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