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Originally Posted by joeydb
Never said that improvements couldn't be made. But that 2200+ page bill and all the bureaucrats it will put in between you and your doctor is not the answer.
And the proponents of the bill really wanted (and still want) "single payer" - socialized medicine.
The closer you make insurance to a true market based entity the better. Things like savings accounts help with that as the patient does care what the service costs and that supresses price.
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sure do. and have a good reason why-well, several.
the current health care system sucks. insurers are for-profit entities. so, altho they provide a necessary service, they also must watch the bottom line scrupulously. this is what causes people to be dropped, or coverages to be denied, etc.
so, what did obamacare do? well, it forces one hell of a lot more people to buy it. they had to have a way to force people (mostly the young and healthy) to buy something, in order to help pay the way for those old and unhealthy, and those with the conditions that health insurers will now have to pay for.
why would single payer be better? it immediately takes away any need whatsoever to turn a profit. there would be no shareholders to keep happy. no stocks, etc. i'd imagine that the tax imposed to pay for this wouldn't cost more than what those of us currently paying premiums are already paying. however, the huge monstrosity known of ppaca will end up costing a hell of a lot more than what's been budgeted-quick, those who support ppaca, name one program that has come in at or under projected cost in the federal govt EVER?
you say single payer is socialized-medicine has actually been socialized for decades. those with insurance have always had far higher medical bills than what services really cost, so as to cover the written off bills that indigents can't pay.
and yes, hsa's have dropped. you also have more limits on what you can spend that money on, much otc meds are no longer allowed. i'd imagine the fed was losing too much tax dollars to keep that amount, and those items included.