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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
It's the WRONG example,Brian! OK..so these 2 Bums get caught..so that makes the message bad too? I don't think it does. You can check your States' Preamble to its' Constitution to see what was set down by our leaders. It might surprise you. The breakdown of this society is a result of family breakdown and that society became lawless and unwilling to follow its leaders. The recalcitrant child imposing its' will....
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absolutely does not make the message necessarily bad-- that's another debate we've had
however, the big point of what I was saying is gentlemen like these two are the main reason that people are very uncomfortable when talking about fixing the moral breakdown in this country. how do we fix it? we listen to our role models...our pastors and congressmen? and then they betray us by being hypocrites.
these examples of people who can't practice what they preach make people uneasy about ANYONE with a moral agenda.
morality starts at home and it is parents who need to instill a moral upbringing in their children. we can disagree over how to define that morality, but i know we can all agree on most of the things (ie we don't teach our kids to have sex at age 12, we don't teach them to get drunk and high in 8th grade, we teach them that killing people and stealing is wrong...things like that). it's depressing, it almost seems like there is no way to fix it. how do we start to fix it when the family is the core teacher of morality and values, but the family is breaking down at unprecedented rates and our families are outsourcing their parenting to day care centers so that we can go to work to keep up in the rat race of debt we're in and not get evicted from the house that the family spends a total of one hour a day together in?