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Originally Posted by Honu
Germany is doing very well for themselves I agree to that.
You get me wrong, I am conservitive fiscally and socially I am liberal. I will not vote for anyone for any position who brings their religion or their ideal of what they think is moral to any office.
I also will not support any candidate who suggests that we should all be equal and all should have the same things because when that is suggested what gives people a motive to do better and to be better?
I am for free enterprise and for capitalism I am for social freedoms void of any religous point of view. Im am not for any public employee who's salary is funded with my tax dollars going on strike and causing hardships on other people to further the agenda of a Union.
Im for giving people who came to this country illegally the option to join the armed forces for 4 years and become citizens or they will be sent back to the **** hole they come from.
I do not think health insurance is a right neither is driving a car, they are privilages and it is not the federal governments role to provide it.
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You sound like what Republicans used to be like

I agree with much of what you say.
I think, that in a first world country, being healthy and having food on the table is a right, in the sense that society wants to ensure that every citizen has that. Rather than leaving everyone alone to fend for the basics themselves.
Does that mean it should be "given away for free"? No. But yes, to the poor and destitute. And it should be made affordable for everyone else to purchase. Nobody, in a first world country as rich as ours, should starve, or not get health care, or not get the chance for education.
Although, the 2010 Census indicates that our middle class is indeed virtually gone, with 1 of 2 of us living within or just above poverty levels. That's a shame, as the country is wealthier than ever.
Does that mean I think money should be taken from the rich and given to the poor? Not at all. Keep what you earn. But the rules have to be the same for every citizen. Not just the plutocracy that rule us.
And this is me :-)