[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If Gorella and Wait a While could race on the turf, while the others are on the dirt, it might be competitive. Your continued suggestion that Wait a While, who had WELL established dirt form, coincidentally improved as a racehorse exactly when placed on the turf is disturbingly illinformed.

Todd Pletcher, as I pointed out, was quoted in print BEFORE the American Oaks, that he always felt Wait a While was a better turf horse. Not that this proves anything but it hardly supports your unsupportable claim.

As for Gorella.....you think saying these things, even though there is nothing to back them up, gives them credence. It doesn't. Exactly how much difference between this year's Distaff field and the ones of the past you bring up do you think there really is ( in lengths )?

I suppose u can show me something to back up your point of view that Gorella CAN'T be as good on dirt or better than she is on turf? To this point, all u have done is the same as I have done; give your opinion. U don't know anything to be fact more than I do so stop acting like u have fact on your side in the argument.

As for Wait a While, I will concede that in this one, u do have evidence to support your argument while I don't. But perhaps u can concede that I did not say she's as good on the dirt as on the grass. What I said is that IF she has improved as a racehorse and it isn't just the grass, then I think she'd be in with a good chance. It's not like she was a horrible dirt horse either. She was notches below the best in her division but she was still 8-3-1-3 with over $400k in earnings on dirt and a couple of 90 Beyers. That's not horrible. And this was only halfway through her 3yo season so there was still room for improvement. I don't deny that she's a better grass filly than dirt. It would be silly to deny that.

I happen to think this year's Distaff field is pretty horrible. I think horses like Personal Ensign and Bayakoa would be 6+ lengths better than them. I wouldn't take a shot against that type. Against these, I would. And I don't think either would have to be just as good on dirt as they are on grass.

Personally, I feel that 75% of what I've seen from Wait a While on the grass would be good enough to win the Distaff but 100% of her on the grass won't be good enough to beat Ouija Board and Film Maker. I think that Pine Island is probably the horse to beat in the Distaff and if she wins it, she's going to be the 3yo filly champion regardless of what Wait a While does in the F/M Turf. So go take the championship away from her.