[freddymo]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

I don't have any experience training racehorses, and I don't mean to sound snarky, but based on what you said above, it sounds like I don't need much considering how much watching others and replicating their actions plays a role in training...and maybe some should question the long-term impact of Bobby Frankel's training methods and how that has potentially hurt US racing (I know there have been some stories about this in the past).

No one needs experience, either, to state the obvious - American horses don't come back and run in four days, or eight days, and do it with any success. Trainers can lie all they want about their rationale, that's also obvious many times (Guerrero and his cheeks as mentioned in another thread). What happens in some examples in the rest of the world is dramatically different than what happens here, same breed, very very different handling, durability, etc.

The UK racing season is year round now with the installation of several all-weather surfaces, same in France. It's not high quality racing, but neither are many of our year-round circuits. At the top levels, it's near impossible to ignore the fact that the majority of graded-caliber American older horses run about an eight-month season from April (Keeneland) to Breeders' Cup or so.

Maybe we will just agree to disagree - but for now, nothing is going to change my opinion that the rest of the world is, on average, able to get more out of a thoroughbred than those based in America.

Yeah your nickel Sihaal is a terriffic gift. The pig has raced 28 times is a 7 year old and was in races with purses of 7k months ago. Apparently the downgrade in competition in Dubai is all the Nickel Claimer needed to shine at 7. Have a heart bro you are clueless