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Originally Posted by oracle80
KY,
What you don't realize is that that stable employs a racing manager who used to train himself, even won a Belmont Stakes, who has tremendous input into the running of those horses. I'm tryiing hard to hold my tongue and not use words I shouldn't to you, because perhaps you just are clueless about this and don't realize that.
But the fact is that Todd was lukewarm about committing to the race, and the racing manager and the farm certainly made the call about running him moreso than Todd did, and that would involve right up to the end as well.
Instead of focusing this on Todd, perhaps you should be aiming a lot of it at the racing manager.
And speculating how close a horse with a fracture would have been to another horse without the fracture is really kind of impossible.
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No need to hold your tongue because I think that you are interpreting my post in the wrong manner.
Again, I'm not bashing or necessarily blaming Todd or anyone else. I completely understand the pressures of this game. I'm just pointing out the facts of the situation. They were trying to get one more race out of the horse who was obviously not doing so well in the soundness department. I don't hold it against them. I would have probably done the same thing. I don't know any of them personally, and I'm sure that most or all are very professional, stand-up people. And I happen to think that Todd Pletcher is one of the best trainers in the world. However, nothing will convince me that TP and every other trainer in the world doesn't push their horses sometimes. They have to because most horses always have minor problems anyway. If they waited on all of those minor problems to resolve, h e l l, most horses would never race or race very, very little! But, I know that you know this. I'm just showing you what I know.
In another example, I'm pretty sure that it is the stud farm who wants to run FA in the Classic and not Todd Pletcher. Also, I'm sure that Pletcher didn't want to run Keyed Entry in the Derby.
You remember how I said that I didn't need to see another race from Nobiz Like Shobiz to know that he was the real deal...Well, I don't need to see another race between BC or Bernardini to know that Bernardini is, by far, the superior animal. It really doesn't matter how close BC would have been because BC's best wouldn't have been anywhere close enough to beat Bernardini anyway. That is just my opinion on the situation.