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The Bengals have 5 post season wins in 43 years. In 40 of their 43 years they do not have a post season win. Comprehend just how bad this organization really is, and then tell me what a terrible job Marvin Lewis did there. Marvin did very, very well. Marvin's first playoff team was pretty good and his qb got hurt on the first play of the post season. He got a not very good team to win a division last year in a division with the two participants in the previous year's AFC championship game. His first really bad team was with Ryan Fitzpatrick playing qb....they started 1-11-1 and won their last 3 games of the season....did not quit. This year is another bad team and again is playing their best football right now....did not quit. I'm not a big Palmer fan but you know he is better than Fitzpatrick especially then.

I'm a Cleveland Indians fan too. I can still say Joey votto is a good first baseman. As a Browns fan, I hope they fire Marvin and hire a Josh McDaniels, or Petrino rather than a Haley or Ryan, or Mike Smith. After all, in 8 years with Marvin, the Bengals fnished ahead of the Browns 6 times. The two times he didn't are this year, and the other time the Browns needed to beat Marvin's team to clinch a playoff berth and Marvin's team beat them. You're darn right I want him fired. That's applicable I guess. I think the chances are better than 50-50 they hire a worse coach than him which was my point all along.

Ok, You got me on the Marvin Lewis should be fired without question. You really did!! I'll stand alone on this one but is that the only item that proves you are wrong on message boards?? I was ganged up upon. I don't care. My points are solid and everyone knows it.