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Old 06-30-2010, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 View Post
you might not like this, cause Clinton may not have been a progressive enough for you (though I do believe deep down he was)

The greatest "hope" that I have for Obama is to turn out even a little bit like ol' Bill (minus the oval office bj's - not classy for that office, though it really wasnt our business).

Bill started off pretty liberal, and America really wasnt too hot on him until Newt and the pub's took Congress 2 years into Clinton's presidency (which I think has a decent chance of happening in Nov). Clinton embrased some of the ideas from Congress, and became much more of a "centrist", and his last 6 years were pretty spectacular from a fiscal standpoint. I believe that Obama can learn from that.. and hopefully he continues to use Hillary.

I think a Repub Pres (especially one like Bush) and a liberal congress does NOT work.

I do believe that a Liberal Pres and a Conservative congress does and can work though.

I want President Obama to do well.. my future is based on that & I love this country.
I'll admit that I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm more progressive than this country will ever be from a political standpoint, and there is no way that the country I live in will ever look like I think it should unless I move somewhere in Europe, which I don't obviously want to do because I like it here.

I liked Clinton quite a bit, and a return to the glory days of that era would be 100% fine by me.

But at the same time, I also don't think that things can be like that again, at least not with Obama. The Right hated Clinton for the most part, but it doesn't match up in any way with how extreme their hatred for everything about Obama is. They will absolutely NOT work with him on anything. If they get control of Congress, I'd be willing to wager that there will be no "centrist" legislation whatsoever, because a great deal of folks on the right are more concerned with seeing Obama fail than they are seeing anything positive get done. And you can bet that two years of no forward progress will be just fine with them as long as it means that Obama fails.

Then again, bickering, blame, and no forward progress seems to be what everyone wants (if DT is a good microcosm of the world), so it seems that people will be, for the most part, getting exactly what they want.
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