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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I don't know which ludicrous argument to refute first, so I'll just say that using the hackneyed cliche "time only matters when you're in jail" about a sport called horse racing is akin to saying points don't matter in basketball and runs don't matter in baseball.
The other thing I love is the consistent insinuation by the flat earth figure hating crew that anyone who dares glance at any kind of speed number totally thinks every number is perfect and that figs are the only handicapping factor that needs to be considered. As if the rest of us who aren't deathly afraid of numbers don't also use workouts (really?), company lines, trainer stats, pedigrees, etc.
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Why is it that all you BEYER/DRF types seem to spin all the arguments your way. If you didn't go around FLEXING all the time, using your SLOW and FAST BS as if it were some kind of IRREFRAGABLE insight, then others wouldn't feel the need to throw the **** back at you. There's a reason, JOEY, why when they discuss the Tour de France, they never speak about how FAST a particular stage was (with the exception of the time trials). This is because they understand that there are many factors that go into WHY a particular stage was run in a particular time. And, that noting only the final time is to GROSSLY under model it.
It's already been conceded that BEYERS are USELESS on SYNTHETICS. Even CJ is on record. With all the synthetic horses crossing over and kicking the DIRT horses' asses, pretty soon the worth of Beyers on dirt will come into question.
I personally have no problem with using models in racing. I just have issues with poorly constructed ones. You know, the type you need to AD HOC tweak.
And, all the FLEXING by the adherents of this method.