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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
You're making an assumption here:
1) that numeric pace is a larger set than setups
I have reasons for thinking that this is just not the case. So, basically, I'm being dogmatic because I don't want to go from the more to the less comprehensive?
I think anyone new to the game should just stay away from numbers (of any kind). They should focus on understanding race dynamics and when they get to a certain level they can then incorporate numbers into their game. This is clearly not the way things are done, as reading comments for just about any race clearly indicates how lacking people are when it comes to understanding race dynamics. Of course, they certain don't lack the ability to point out the fast or slow horses. Anybody can reason about regularities in a model. The idea, however, is to understand how they apply to the thing that's modeled.
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First of all, I never made your first assumption.
I agree that people learning the game would be FAR better off taking the time to understand how races are run and how this affects the outcome and performances of the participants before they incorperate speed figures. This does not mean that speed figures aren't valuable...it is a completely different concept. You have continued to suggest speed figures are useless. You are the one that espouses a dogmatic approach to the game. Just because your methods may be more comprehensive doesn't mean they are everything.....and that is all I am saying.