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Originally Posted by Riot

Plenty of older Americans have go to Mexico and Canada to buy affordable drugs, drugs they need to live. Too expensive in the US, even with insurance, Medicare. Plenty of Americans have go to Mexico to afford operations they need..

People also go there for cheap body work and paint jobs for cars not to mention dental work.

Originally Posted by Riot

Is your position truly, if you can't afford the Ferrari, there should be no Jeep or Kia for you to choose from here? Healthcare only for the wealthy? That excellent healthcare isn't a humane right, something we are proud of for all our citizens, in this first world country? The "most powerful" first world country on earth?.

Excellent Healthcare isn't a humane right and neither is excellent housing. There is a thing called catostrophic health insurance and with a 5K deductable is very affordable. Of course those who don't work can't afford a gum ball so its not available to EVERYONE.

Originally Posted by Riot

What if you have plenty of money, but you can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions. Should the average hospitalization cost for some accidents of $30,000-$50,000 make you lose your house and all your retirement savings?.

I don't follow you. Plenty of money and you can't afford 30-50K? Huh?

Originally Posted by Riot

We do not have the Ferrari of health care in the world. We are ranked, yes, 39th. Our babies die. Our old people die. We are unhealthy, expensively unhealthy, cradle to grave..

The ranking is BS. We rank above Canada, at least in their Premier's eyes. Ever visit anyone at Mayo or Johns Hopkins. They are filled w/patients from other countries many of whom have coverage under their socialized programs.

Originally Posted by Riot

We do have the most expensive healthcare in the world, yes. But we don't get as much for our dollar as 38 other countries do .

And some would argue you get more for your dollar buying Kia rather than a Ferrari yet you won't find anyone willing to trade down.