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Old 09-24-2006, 06:19 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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I don't dislike The Tin Man at all...he is a very solid horse. But for you to say that he is "much better" than Cacique or EC, I guess we just have different criteria for determining what makes a horse good.

Last I checked, EC was 3 for 5 this year, with 2 Grade 1 wins. IMO...that makes him pretty damn good. His only two off the board finished were in races that the winners (Cacique and The Tin Man) slowed down both races to a crawl and led gate to wire.

I'm sorry, but I think the outside post and being bumped even wider out of the gate did compromise EC in the Arl. Million. I'm not saying he would have won by any means....but it didn't help his cause. TTM broke very well...got up front, slowed it down and took off at the end. It was a great performance on his part and the jockey as well. The other jocks made a huge mistake letting a horse of that calibur get away with setting soft fractions.


Again, TTM is a very very good horse. I appreciate good tough runners like him, but to say that he is "much better" than EC and Cacique??? Come on Richi...
What's your definition of "much better"? I don't think that he's 10 lengths better. I think he is a length or two better at 9-10 furlongs. To me that is "much better".

EC lost the Million by practically 5 lengths. I just watched the race again. He had no legitimate excuses. If he and TTM reversed trips, TTM would still have beaten him easily. Maybe he would have beaten him by 2 lengths instead of 5 lengths, but he still would have beaten hin handily. Caciqe and EC were both losing ground to TTM down the stretch. You need to watch the replay again. You can't complain about a slow pace when your horses are losing ground in the stretch.
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