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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
all i know is when i was working (sheetmetal). the building trades unions are different. i worked in a non union shop at first, when i got into the union my pay and benefits went up substantially. if i had to work in NYC or Conn. they paid me "rate" for that locals district, which is a hell of alot more than you'll make in upstate ny. in building trades the owners are all union or former union members. they have no qualms about paying their people and the companies are all making money. of course i've been retired for 5 years so i imagine they are hurting now because of the economy. i know some of these unions hurt business but before unions people worked everyday for whatever they could get. next weekend, thank the unions for such a thing. when your kid does not get his hand cut off in a machine at age 12 or 14 , again , thank the union. when people are able to negotiate a contract through "COLLECTIVE" bargaining, thank the unions. try getting a better deal from a non union shop by yourself. like my example, wal mart, non union, selling crap from china where "assistant managers" make about 9 bucks an hour. they are scared to death of the unions becuase they are getting away with modern day slavery. yeah, we get to pay a dollar ten for a widget, but what is the real cost to our society? take a look around, blue collar skilled work used to pay something. theres a reason unions are being demonized.
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Before unions? Like the 30's?
Like many things they were needed and useful at one time. However the role they play now is not what they were designed for and a lot of those jobs lost overseas were simply because unions demands were outrageous enough to encourage them to leave. Unions = great for the members, terrible for everyone else