[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by miraja2

How do you give Twice Over zero chance?
I am not even remotely close to being an expert when it comes to evaluating euro races, but doesn't his last race seem to indicate that he might have at least an outside shot here? Do you really know enough about him to say that he doesn't even have a chance?

I don't think he does well in races with a quick pace. I've watched all of his grade one races and before he broke through in the last (a 14-1 upset), he wasn't really highly regarded over there. His lowest odds in any other grade one were 7.50-1. In the St. James's Palace, he was up fairly close and even took the lead in the last furlong but couldn't go with the top horses. In last year's Champion Stakes, he again was right up there with a furlong to go and was no match for the winner. In the Lockinge, he led early and even though he battled at the end, was again passed. In the Prince of Wales's, he again led in the final quarter and was again passed. He was crushed in the Eclipse but I'd throw that out as he's better than what we saw there. I think an American 10f race is going to be run at too quick a pace for him. Oddly, I think he'd have been a much better fit for the 12f Turf because those races usually have less pace and he could run easier up front. Because he's a grass graded stakes level horse, I'd probably have to put him in the fourth spot in a super but I just can't see him higher than that.