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Originally Posted by Riot

No, I'm not. There are no death panels. There is no repeal of HIPPA regarding medical records. There is no government making healthcare decisions for you. There is no single-payer. There will be a debate when the three bills go to committee regarding offering a public option or a co-op, there will probably be a public option. Nobody will be affected unless they are uninsured and can now get insurance. Nobody has to change or give up their current health plan. It may become less expensive to you. And of course, you won't have to worry about being thrown off your current insurance plan after you have a claim, or worry about all companies refusing to insure you because you've had a previous health problem, or worry about losing your current insurance because you can't afford COBRA and you've lost your job.

Please, show me where the government will "control" my health care and make my healthcare decisions for me. Where they will tell me what I can have done, where I can have it done, and who will do it. Of course, my insurance company tells me that right now - here's the hospitals in your plan, here's the doctors in your plan, and here's what we will pay for. Unless, of course, we change our mind after you make the claim, then we can just arbitrarily decide not to pay after we've said we will.

That will stop. Yes, That's government control, I suppose - passing law not allowing insurance companies to do that to their clients anymore.

But go ahead. Tell me how the government will control my health care, and make my healthcare decisions for me. Something ... concrete and factual. Not just, "You just don't get it!" or "Are you kidding?" or "Oh, yeah, they will!" or "Sputter, sputter, anger, anger, I hate the government!"

I can not believe you actually believe this. I have heard Obama say that you won't have to give up your current plan if you don't want to so many times, but what he is not telling you is your plan as it exists today won't exist if this healthcare reform bill is passed. No company is going to continue to offer health insurance to their employees because it will be cheaper to go on the government plan. How do you think they are going to pay for this? In today's current system there are numerous hospitals, etc. that will not and can not refuse care regardless or whether you have insurance. By being employed and paying for my health care plan I am able to choose what and how I want to handle and what I can afford as far my medical needs go. Do you really think that if I am 70 yrs old and in not great health (let's say I have had numerous heart attacks) that if I am on the government's plan that they will pay for my knee to be replaced? How about people with MS? My father had cancer that 90% of the dr's said that they needed to cut his whole leg off, he continued to search out additional opinions and today has 2 healthy legs, walks with a slight limp and has been cancer free for 15+ yrs. Do you think under the government's plan that he would have been able to receive numerous opinions? The government can't even compete with UPS or Fedex with something as simple as delivering overnight packages and the post office is losing millions of dollars and would be bankrupt if it was a private business and you think it is a good idea for them to be in charge of healthcare? If they can't compete with the private businesses in something so simple what makes you think they can do so with healthcare?