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Originally Posted by Riot

If you can't understand that providing health care for the minority of Americans that are uninsured will help the economy - oh, yes, those big insurance companies, too, and hospitals, and thousands and thousands of "small business" doctors and health care providers (laboratories, radiology, pharmacy, etc) - aside from helping real live people, I can't help you.

If a certain provision passes (and it may not, and I assume this is what you are worried about) what it says is the only small businesses that would have to provide health care (if they do not now) would be those that have a payroll of over $250K/year. And, they can get very cheap health care for their employees if this passes, at far less than 8% of their payroll.

And additionally, having other, less expensive options - provider choices - available for purchasing healthcare only helps all small businessess by cutting their costs.

This is fantasyland. And I hate to inform you but payrolls of $250k a year is about $4800 a week. That is hardly the type of business that can afford to provide healthcare or be hit with a penalty for not providing it. If your payroll is $250k a year for your businrss the chances of the owner of the business making more than $250k a year are almost zero. Remember that little lie about raisng taxes on incomes of 250k or less? I understand there are differences in the exact wording and classification but a tax on a mans business is a tax on the man. Not to mention the ridiclous notion that somehow healthcare for all will provide the economy a boost. That is total bs. The fact is that a bunch of sick people dying faster would lessen the drag that healthcare is on the economy. If that is what you mean, that the new healthcare program will be so poorly run that it will cause more seriously ill people to die quicker than maybe you are right about the economic factor. Otherwise you are simply reading the Obama talking points and taking them at face value and if there is anything that has been learned about this administration is that taking what they say at face value will probably come back to burn you when the reality sets in.