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I appreciate all of your insight. From this end, I don't think the T-G materials are worth much... I have had decent luck with "the Xtras" (despite not asking for a picture) and read Len Ragozin's book once a year whether I need to or not (a must read, if you can find it). I find the pace numbers very helpful on the Xtras and have a continuing appreciation for what "the Lens" do (that being said got killed on In The Gold at the B/C last year on their advice). I realize you are all very good handicappers, but take Mr. Byk's advice and read Betting Thoroughbreds by Steve Davidowitz's book; absolutely great...