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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Depends on your definitions and assumptions.
1) If you assume that QR and IWR would've finished ahead of PON had they run, then
2) it would come down to your definition of what tossing PON out of the exotics would mean
So it does come down to semantics and assumptions
but, all it all, the rigorous SPIN by the PON detractors (best defense is a good offense) kind of points to their losing this one.
Why anyone would think that PON is
a) exceptionally good
or
b) a plug
is beyond me.
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I seem to remember all this POTN conversation started when IWR won the Gotham, then The Wood, and when Papa Clem won the Arkansas Derby. Essentially the crux of the discussion to bring it back to some semblance of logic here was could he transfer his synth form to dirt, and probably in this case improve as IWR and or PC did. I don't think anyone here said he was very good, great, whatever word you choose. Though no one should be judged on solely 1 race, I think we can conclude he is not simply a synth and or turf horse, that we know based on 1 isolated race.