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Originally Posted by Danzig
i have a rat terrier, i don't even think they're a recognized breed.
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And be thankful for that

The Border Collie folks fought AKC recognition hard, but lost. Three generations, and show Border Collies have completely different looks and temperment than real Border Collies.
Fortunately, there remains thousands of "real" Border Collies, and only a few hundred "show" types.