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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Interesting that you can make this statement that he is in the bottom 1/3rd of the league based upon an 90 QB rating in his only body of work that you or anyone else has ever seen. The guy who was named AFC offensive player of the week twice this year. You make it out like the offensive line makes the decisions with the ball. Cassell was sacked 47 times and SF gave up 55, not much of a margin considering how great NE's line supposedly is. Shaun Hill is and never has shown much, he isnt a rookie. Beating the Rams and a lame duck Skins team doesnt mean he is any good. Jason Campbell has always been a bad decision maker. Game managers are hardly a dime a dozen or guys like Collins wouldnt still be in the league and Vinny Testaverde wouldnt get a call every year. Pennington is the same guy who supposedly cant make the throws yet Miami hasnt been able to find a game manager for years before him. Gus Ferotte? you are kidding right?
Regardless of what people think there has never been a situation like this guy was put in and he played really well. Maybe i'm wrong but everytime I saw the guy play, he played well which is more than I can say for the QB of the Jets. Way more NFL QB's lose games than win them.
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The fact that Cassell was even close to 50 sacks is more a testament to the QB than the line. That same unit allowed just 21 last year and their schedule was more difficult then. What was the difference? QB. Nothing changed in the line. The decisions are exactly what were the difference. Decisions to hold the ball too long can be just as deadly as throwing it to the other team.
There are plenty of game managers in the NFL. Frerotte isnt one? His team is in the playoffs and he isnt asked to make many plays. He is the definition of game manager.
I say he is in the bottom third of the league. I will go through twenty that are better:
Would you take him over Phillip Rivers? No.
Jay Cutler? No.
Donovan Mcnabb? No.
Tony Romo? No.
Eli Manning? No.
Peyton Manning? No.
Ben Roethlisberger? No.
Jake Delhomme? No.
Matt Schaub? No.
Matt Ryan? No.
Aaron Rodgers? No.
Carson Palmer? No.
Chad Pennington? No.
Marc Bulger? No.
Tom Brady? No.
Matt Hasselbeck? No.
Drew Brees? No.
Kurt Warner? No.
Those guys are all better and i dont think there is much to debate. These guys are right there and i think are better although its debatable:
Trent edwards
David Garrard
Joe Flacco
Shaun Hill
Kerry Collins
That leaves him at the bottom third...at best.
You give all those guys moss, welker and that line and system and you tell me what they would do.