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Originally Posted by moodwalker
No, Joel. I don't "get it." You are wrong here, buddy.
Every horse I mentioned is a champion, and if you don't care to research who they beat, what they won, and how they did it rather than just discounting them because they didn't run in America then that is your choice. I'm definitely not trying to convince you of anything. It isn't much of a debatable point.
The Melbourne Cup and incidentally the Flemington Spring Carnival coincide with our Breeders Cup. The Melbourne Cup is usually the first Tuesday after the Breeders Cup day.
Contrary to popular belief, a Breeders Cup race to Australians definitely isn't a bigger race to win than The Melbourne Cup.
Elvstroem went to Dubai and won two years ago in the Duty Free, Takeover Target and Choisir won Group One sprints at Royal Ascot in the last few years, and they do consistently go to Japan and Hong Kong and run competitively.
Hong Kong racing is made up of former Australian and Kiwi gallopers who change their names. There was one formerly named Eltira that did pretty good for quite a while (Silent Witness)
There will be European, Asian, and Arab-owned horses contesting the Melbourne Cup, Cox Plate, and Caufield Cup this year, they always do.
If you were Australian, wouldn't you rather win a Cox Plate, or a Caulfield or Melbourne Cup than a Breeders Cup?
I'm not sure why you have taken this attitude with me, because I assure you that I won't be taking any lessons from you.
And I can also guarantee that you wouldn't be popping off your mouth if we weren't on this gay-ass message board and face to face.
Your true ****-ish attitude has shown through Joel, and you have quit debating topics and are now just acting like a spoiled kid.
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None of the best horses in the world are in Australia - period....a loss of their racing rpoduct would not affect the sport...period.....they have had no Seattle's Slews, no Mr. Prospectors, No Sadler's Wells, no Bernardinis, No A.P. indys....no Man O' Wars, no Seceretariats, no Dr. Fagers, no Ruffians, no Foregos....no Citations....Do you see where I'm goi9ng witrh this?
You are trying to justify there importance like justifying that the Italian basketball league has any improtance in the world on the grand scle of professional basketball.....it just doesn't...sorry man..
Oh, ad Sumline won the Cox's Plate sveral consecutive years not the MElbourne Cup...got one insignifgicant race mixed up with another....
It still doesn't change the fact that ytou screwed up by thinking we were argueing Danzig's value as a sire instead his value as a sire oif sires......nice try..
Oh, ad I would tell you every word of this to your face as I am typing it on this keypad because it is what I believe is to be true....
BTW, none of those "Australian Greats" impacted the sport around the world.....Northern Dancer, Raise a Native, Storm Cat...those are a few horses that have impacted the sport around the world - including Australia - but Astralia has never impacted anything truly relavent outside of its racing circles - a racing circle that is inferior to most racing markets....
They actually brought in 3-4 guys from Australia to try to talk Graham Motion into bringing Bette Talk Now to the Melbourne Cup because the thought that it would be one of the greatest coups for their racing product....If that phony turf horse would be a sesation in Australia - that speaks volumes to how poor racing is there.....
Have a nice day
