I concur. The naysayers may call them failed trainers, but they probably make as much, (maybe more, who knows?) having a plush TV job where you get to watch horse racing all day, without having to be on the backside in the morning. Sounds great to me. Bray can recall minute details from races that happened years ago, he has a wicked memory, that's why I was comparing him to Oracle. Lyons seems very relaxed (chemically induced perhaps?) but I'm sure a lot more so than when he was training for a living.