Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I never get owned on any discussion about policy. People simply start name calling etc., or more often, they change to another issue(such as you just did with the Dodger thread stuff.) What you call "getting owned" is almost always somebody changing the topic of discussion. It's clever etc., and I usually go ahead and let people do it. The fact is people run, turn a handle, or steer away from the topic.

1)Dodger threads(evading the topic at hand.)

2)Getting owned etc.( a claim with zero evidence)

3) You claim that the concern about the McCaine's health is a joke. You've attempted to make fun of somebody who has an excellent point. Men die from 72-76 a lot. So, this is a huge issue, and his V.P. pick is not the small issue people think it is.

4) You say r and d rarely if ever talk about the faults of their own parties. Well, of course they are going to talk about the faults of the party that stands for policies they despise.Those are the concerns they most have. I have said I disagree with the Democratic Party about immigration. It's a huge fault, but the Republicans aren't doing anything to stop it either. I want Mobil Exxon to stop getting tax credits while making 10 bil a quarter year. Republicans want to keep giving them that. I'm voting against them doing that. There is nothing incredibly special (to me) about the Democratic Party. I'm only concerned with stopping the implementation of the policies of the Republican Party. Any non-Republican candidate has a chance to get my vote. They've smoked 4k American Lives in Iraq(with not much of a return on those Americans lost...certainly not enough for me.) Those are 2 very big issues. Sorry, but the parties are far apart on them. I don't have a choice. There is only one party that can stop them. You call it partisan. I call it voting for people who share my own views on important topics. It's not like these 2 parties are close on their views. That's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know the views of each party. I will say something about the 2 people running on the Republican side. They are far,far,far better Americans than the 2 now in there. I will not feel nearly as bad about these 2 getting elected.