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Originally Posted by pgardn
One question that has been answered
but is not widely publicized is:
Does waterboarding actually yield good quick information?
And the answer appears to be in some cases
it works very well in extracting information quickly.
So President Scuds sits in the Oval Office:
Pres. Scuds, we have information about a terrorist
attack in LA. It looks like a big network and we dont
know where the hell they are in LA, but its going to
be real bad as it involves a dirty nuke. We do have
suspects in the planning in custody. The attack appears
to be imminent. We think waterboarding will possibly work
on one of these guys. We need info NOW. And this guy has
the goods. He knows. It might work... We have tried other
quick techniques on this guy and its not working.
Does this situation arise often? NO. But if it does,
do you want to leave the option open?
So do you want to say we will prohibit this practice unless
we see a dire need to do it, or just flat out prohibit KNOWING
that it IS effective at getting vital information quickly IN SOME
cases?
And of course we prohibit it completely because we
know it will be abused by Bush and his Cowboy military...
And because we cant set proper criteria when it should
be used.
They are holding a gun to your head, tell the
Cops to back off and let them kill you...take one
for the country and ethics.
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You want the right to act like a dog in rare cases? Right? I don't want to be like them at all.If you torture ,then they've succeeded in making you like them.This is why we have so much trouble now(too many people think it's o.k. to cheat,steal,and lie once in a while.)Multiply that by 300 million people,and you have got the reason for a lot of our present day problems.Take, for instance, the guy who (I guess) threw a puppy off a cliff(I didn't watch it,so you tell me.) Is it o.k. if he just does that one time? In a rare case? There are a lot of people with sick tendencies.Do you really want to give out the message that it's o.k. to do evil stuff once in a while? To torture once in a while? To kill a cat once in a while? Huh? I don't. Hey we have very good communication systems.One of the best ways to stop this scum is to put their evil on full display as often as possible,and let them know what we really do think of them.We don't do that.We fear being called anti-Islamic,or racist,or whatever.That's what is the problem.If you constantly show young people the stuff these people do to innocent people,then this scum will be very interested.They are very interested in how they are viewed around the world.Show them for what they are.Put it on MTV.Constantly show THIS SCUM ACTING LIKE SCUM.They won't like it.They don't have the communication systems here to compete with us.All they can do is stop acting like scum.We are good at entertainment systems,and communuication systems.We beat them at this.Start using it.Stop being scared about upsetting Moslems.That doesn't work.Show everybody what Moslems are doing to innocent people,and let Moslems change their own people.They are only going to change if they have a huge microscope showing them exactly as they are. That will be much more useful than torture,but we can't complain about them being scum if we allow GEEDUBBYA etc. to act like scum.