[quote=blackthroatedwind]IMO, the entire notion of this thread is a perversion of reality. The rides that most horses get are random, and are a waste of time to even attempt to predict, not to mention distracting. You handicap the horses in a race and make your decisions on whether or not to bet, or who to bet, based on the merits of the horses......and not your convaluted ideas of what kind of ride they may get.
In the words of a knowledgeable friend of mine......JesusTapDancing Christ!!
At no point in the thread was there ever a mention of minimizing the necessity for handicapping horse talent or race shape.....they remain crucial elements.
The discussion had to do with Jockey performance and your take on all these other elements of handicapping just completely distorts the subject matter.
Of course the most important element of handicapping a race is the blessed horse Andy........If ignoring the jockey is working for you Andy more power to you but I find it simplistic and falable to suggest that the Jockey riding the horse is an edge of no merit. If jockeys were all alike and places from mounts were nothing more than statistical random events then why are some jocks in such demand while others starve.....you call some of these things random I call them racing luck the difference is trivial but if I happen to be successful staying away from certain jocks or playing against certain false favorites successfully it doesn't make it a "perversion of reality" to be right on occasion
Use what you can and leave the rest just because it's different from you doesn't make it wrong....
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