[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Look, it didn't write it. This list is compiled by some of the most knowledgable people around the world in this sport. If this is the list they have come up with, I'm prepared to go with what they say.

You always go on about your beloved HK horses, but truth is, most of them aren't as good as many european or american horses. Take Viva Pataca for instance. He was just a handicapper in England, yet he can win multiple Gr1 races in HK. The racing there is fantastic, don't get me wrong, it is probably the best racing package available and is certainly closing in on Europe and America, but at the moment, the horses aren't quite as good as the best available from Europe and America. Give it a few years and that will more than likely change.

These rankings are compiled by people from all around the world, so don't think it's done by people who don't like racing in the Far East.

You didn't rate Manduro, and that is your opinion, but he was the best horse on the planet last year, period.

EDIT: why does Echelon deserve to be higher? I agree about Ramonti, but as I say, the people that have done this know FAR more than either me or you or anyone else on here.

I couldn't agree more. Don't let emotion get in the way of understanding truth. The racing in the Far East is improving and as you say, in time, it will probably be right on par with the best in the world. But that time is not yet and because of the short time they've been at it, it couldn't be expected that they are on par with the best in the world at this point.

As for your position that these people know far more than you do and you are prepared to accept their rankings, I couldn't disagree more. What makes them a better judge of talent than you? It would be different if they saw the races and you didn't but since you can see the races just as they can, their opinion is no more valid than yours is. I don't know how long you have been a racing fan but I've been one for just over 20 years. Why should I accept their opinions as the facts if my eyes and experience tell me something else?