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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I've said nothing about Manduro being #1... don't you think if i had a problem with that I'd have said so?
Does he deserve it? Not sure. Was i a big fan (and am I a big Viva pataca fan?). No.
They're both awfully good though.
What the hell does HK have to do in the world to be considered as equal? What about Vengeance of Rain for God sake?
Yeah yeah, they know, they're experts BUT I think it's disgraceful that he was left off, that Miss Andretti is soooo far down, etc.
Hey, it's only my opinion though.
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I'm just saying that in general, the horses in HK are just a step or two lower in class than the very best in Europe and America. The thing is that Vengeance of Rain and Viva Pataca have been head to head a few times right, with differing results. When Viva Pataca was over here he was only a class 2 handicapper. No where near capable of winning a Gr1. He has improved, but he still wouldn't trouble the best of what the rest of the world has (in my opinion). Vengeance Of Rain is probably rated through the form with VP. His sheema classic win was good, I have to agree, but it was a step above some of his other form.
HK and Japan are improving at a rate faster than most other countries. As I say, give them a few more years and it will be their horses close to the top of the tree.
It's also the fact that only a very small percentage of American and British horses go out there. So it's very hard to see who is best.
This post is probably as clear as mud, but I hope some of you understand it.