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Old 01-11-2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
"I believe your odds are too simplistic. The true odds are greater because you are forgetting that nearly half the decks was being delt out to the other 8 or 9 players."

2 cards x 9 players (it would actually be 7 players at pokerstars) = 1/2 the deck? your problem may be that you're innumerate.
10 players total plus 3 burn cards = 23 half of 52 is 26.

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
the folded cards dealt to any player not in the hand are random and unknown, the same as cards remaining in the deck. the odds analysis i did was the standard one you see in any book on poker.

"So what are the odds that you are dealt pocket Aces another player is dealt pocket Kings and another is dealt pockets 10s?"

pretty low in the next hand i play. inevitable if i play long enough.
I just looked on the internet for the percentages of the odds of over pairs. Anyway - I was playng my FFP while waiting to get my money. Those games always have people going all in on the first hand. Another player commented that this was the 3rd game in a row that pocket Kings won the hand. I witnessed it twice myself. It doesn't seem random.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
"I know that bad beats are part of the game but the frequency and the amount of improbable hands are not part of the game."

improbable things should happen in a predictable pattern. gotcha.
"Improbable things" were predictable via the program. That is my complaint. I think some were keeping a spreadsheet or had a photographic memory. I recognized some of the hands.

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"They are part of a program and knowing the program is the only way some people could play their hands the way they play.I've seen where people go "all in" when they need runner runner to win."

or they are bad players that got lucky. that's the tax you pay for sitting at a table with players you can predictably make a profit from.

you may be expecting too much from your bankroll. try lower stakes until you are profitable and then climb the ladder.
This is a memorable hand. $1/2 table started with $100. Worked up to $1,400 other player with $3,000+ is buying pots left and right. I wanted a confrontation. I don't play anything for what seemed like 10 hands. I'm in the small blind with KQ hearts. He's on the button and raises. I just call. The flop has 2 hearts. I bet he raises. I just call. The turn is a heart. I bet he raises I re-raise heavy. There isn't a pair on the board and I wanted him gone. He re-raises puts me all in. The river card is another heart. (and how do all gambling stories end? in tragedy) You got it. 4 hearts on the board and he had the Ace of hearts. That is all he had. Bad player or someone that knew the program?

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you won't find any other website is different. the complaints you make are made by players universally at the sites i've played. maybe the whole industry is a scam. more likely most players are unequipped emotionally to deal with losing bad beats and imprint those more than they do the times they are advantaged as an underdog.

i like online because the rakes are lower and there is no tipping expected (a further drain in live play).

i've had horrendous bad streaks. taking a break is a good idea. after that though, start looking at your game.
you start believing that you should play 8 2 more often than AK <-- extremely overrated IMO. I would rather have J 10.

I have decided to take your advice. I have deleted the software from my machine and don't plan on going back.
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