Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YA USED A QUOTE OF MINE TO START YOUR RESPONSE,CUZ THEN I KNOW NOT TO READ IT(cuz you're another who simply likes to return a hard serve.)You are much better when you don't try to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian........."Got it all figured out"....Yeah,on the subject of Islamic countries and Democracy,I think I do.It ain't ever gunna happen.It's a religion that has no tolerance for non-believers.Evidently,they don't have a lot of tolerance for left-handed people ,either.You want a country without a free press? Great,but don't call it "nice" or Democratic.Is the standard of living in Turkey better than these other countries you mentioned(has nothing to do with the subject,but that never stopped you from fishing )....Yes.Any country that has people breeding beyond their means is in trouble,but nobody wants to accept that as the truth.It's easier to just blame somebody else for a country's irresponsible ways.................Back to the other topic,I want all you people that deny Turkey's lack of 1)civil rights,2)free speech,3)free press,4)freedom of religion etc. to just wait n' see what happens,because this is not this great Moslem Democracy you are fantasizing it to be.What I'm saying is you don't have just an isolated group (like Al Quaeda) to go after.It's a problem with the whole intolerant Moslem World.It is totally unsupportive of Democracy and freedom,and that's why those 2 things are so lacking when you look at what countries Moslems control.