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Originally Posted by pgardn
Scuds you know a couple of people from Turkey and you think you got the whole country figured out? You think Turkey is a hell hole?
Compared to what?
The country just to the South of us has regions just as bad as anything you described in Turkey. US citizens get raped in jail there every year. There are regions the Mexican government has no control over. No Turkey is not the US; But if you randomly started picking countries from a hat THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN, and Turkey was the first one that came up, I would be inclined to pick it. A country in Africa, the Middle East, South America (you go live in Columbia or Ecuador), etc... might be the very next pick...
It is a matter of degree with all these countries.
We just happen to be damn lucky.
We have to figure out how Al Q is getting funded and gets stuff transported to them. We know its Middle east money, we got to infilitrate and this will take time. We run them out of Afghanistan, and now they are stronger in Pakistan which has nukes. Not good. Bottom line: it requires lots of money, communication and transport. This is no small operation. All these countries have to get on the same page about this group. They deal in nothing but death, destruction, and the complete inhibition of any individual liberties. And every country they gain power goes through immense suffering.
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I'D APPRECIATE IT IF YA USED A QUOTE OF MINE TO START YOUR RESPONSE,CUZ THEN I KNOW NOT TO READ IT(cuz you're another who simply likes to return a hard serve.)You are much better when you don't try to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian........."Got it all figured out"....Yeah,on the subject of Islamic countries and Democracy,I think I do.It ain't ever gunna happen.It's a religion that has no tolerance for non-believers.Evidently,they don't have a lot of tolerance for left-handed people ,either.You want a country without a free press? Great,but don't call it "nice" or Democratic.Is the standard of living in Turkey better than these other countries you mentioned(has nothing to do with the subject,but that never stopped you from fishing )....Yes.Any country that has people breeding beyond their means is in trouble,but nobody wants to accept that as the truth.It's easier to just blame somebody else for a country's irresponsible ways.................Back to the other topic,I want all you people that deny Turkey's lack of 1)civil rights,2)free speech,3)free press,4)freedom of religion etc. to just wait n' see what happens,because this is not this great Moslem Democracy you are fantasizing it to be.What I'm saying is you don't have just an isolated group (like Al Quaeda) to go after.It's a problem with the whole intolerant Moslem World.It is totally unsupportive of Democracy and freedom,and that's why those 2 things are so lacking when you look at what countries Moslems control.