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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
funny i personally saw john ward and mrs ward.. nick zito ,lukas in saratoga most mornings..training them..and abrau sp is another stellar record..whitny should have given them to anyone else....your argument is weak and assman was on time out most of the year blasi was in fact all around too
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whos barn were you in to see if they were training or doing something with the horses? or did you see them around , watching works, talking to the owners? because if you saw them traning horses then you had to be in the barn, when you watched these guys train what types of equipment did they have with them? i mean horses dont understand sign language as far as i know, did those guys have whips with them? or were they just hanging around?
thats funny i worked for one of the trainers you mentioned at saratoga year before last and that trainer didnt even come to the barn the 1st 2 weeks i worked there, and then he came in to saddle a horse for a stakes race, and that morning he sat in the office all but about 1 hour, then he left at about 8:30 and never came back, he saddled the horse in the paddock, the horse ran 3rd, he left and didnt come back to saratoga until a week later to sadle another horse in a stakes race........during the saratoga sales which last for about 8 days or so. guys like lukas, ward(his wife is in charge)zito spend the whole day at the sale sociallizing,,,so during those 8 days or so who is training those horses? btw i am not saying that these horses arent getting well cared for,,,but it sure as hell aint by steve assmussen when he is in dallas and the horses are in ny,,,he aint training nothin but people he hasnt trained a horse in years that cant be done on the telephone,,,,baffert went to the derby and mentioned that he had been there for 4 days,,,,he didnt have a horse in the derby did he? so who was training those horses?OH AND BY THE WAY, NONE OF THESE GUYS ARE HORSE TRAINERS, they are horse conditioners, duh!!!!! train a horse to run? they are like personal trainers to people, a horse trainer teaches horses how to do things, todd pletcher isnt physically training those horses to do anything, he is tellin the gallop boys what to do and the rest of his time at the barn(all while talking on the cell phone) is spent with veterinarins,,,,,a guy like pletcher spends the vast majority of his time on the phone i bettcha that guy is on the phone 12 hours everyday and the other 9 hours he is awake he is spending with owners scmuzzing them,,,,so tell me which horse he trains? he manages