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Originally Posted by pgardn
Ok here we go. Where are the candidates? Where are the young up and comers from other ethnic groups, especially blacks in the cases I have mentioned? I dont think it is going very deep into a question as you have stated.
And I keep with my initial claim. It gets very interesting now. If I stick to what I am saying, something is happening at an earlier age than you are looking at. What is it? And I am not trying to be Socrates, what is it?
In fact I would ask everyone on the board if a person of color has an equal chance of being successful, all other things being equal, in their personal areas of employment. Kev, the golf pro. I cannot see a black female golf pro rubbing it up with all the fellas after a few rounds. Oracle, still the same accessebility to owners (from the get go, without already establishing onself) and trainers? I have already stated there is a dearth of black science teachers in my realm. All you guys in the horse business... if you where black and female, equal opportunity from the get go? None of this if you work hard and establish your credibility... from the beginning... getting in the door.
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Patrick you are completely off base although I know you probably don't mean to be. The thought that I ever had accessibility to anything is a joke. I don't come from a silver spoon upbringing, very far from it. As a kid I used to help out a paperboy in the neighborhood and do his route when he went on vacation. AFter I turned 12 and was old enough to get my own route, I did. Then I had a morning paper route to go with the one after school. Mowed lawns, raked leaves, shoveled snow(back before everyone owned a snow blower they would pay a kid like me 1 or 2 dollars to shovel their snow). Got a job(as a telemarketer, sucked) the day I turned 16 and could do that. Had a partial scholarship at college and hustled the rest. Drove wrecks of cars that sometimes were held together with duct tape around a broken electrical line. Nothing was handed to me, ever. I had "acess" because I met a guy who had heard I could really cap the ponies and needed a pik-6 connection in NY because he was a maverick that loved to play carryovers and back when I met him there wasnt account betting or simulcasting everywhere. You had to have a guy in that state that could the bet down and NY was a good carryover place. He'd wire me the money to make the bet on a carryover and we would talk over what we were playing and I would get 5%. Later on he became an eclipse winning owner and I got to meet trainers and players from being with him all the time. So you can't even say I caught a break there, I performed hard for the guy with hard work, thats the only reason I got there in the first place. Even after that it was a struggle for a long time. Business is ripe with old money and inherited money guys who frown upon people who didnt have their shrimp peeled for them when they were kids.
I really fail to see how a minority could have had it any tougher than I did, other than I didn't get called racial epithets but heck being from the sticks where I was bussed into school with many rich kids I was called things just as bad. You are off base heer Patrick and I think your generalization on teh whole matter regarding opportunity stinks.