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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Since you posted those, I'll just add that its those late pace numbers in his two turn routes that made me consider him a toss-out for the derby. The only quality number was at the one turn distance. The Derby winner should show something strong in the late pace number when going 9F, as well as overall speed. The Remson was okay for 2yo's, but not overpowering. It was acheived only because of softer numbers on the first two calls.
FYI, I am a huge fan of bris numbers for this reason.
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well he came home from a 1:36mile (just looking at 5ths here on the drf) .6 seconds faster as a 2YO in the Remsen than his final derby prep the Wood.
Soft numbers on the first two calls is something to strive for as a trainer and jockey with a horse like Nobiz.
It was pretty clear after the Wood that Nobiz was going to flatten out by the time the stretch run came about in the Derby.