I"d like to see your count, because the last time we did this on another forum we got about twice the number of closers as stalkers counting from 1980 to 2005. I think we got 20 closers/10 stalkers/6 front runners.

I dont know where we stuck pressers perhaps in w/ front runners, dont recall.

SINce then Ive tried to count from 1960-present and the ratio does not quite hold up, but it's still somethign like: 50%-30%-20% (closer/stalker/frontrunner).

So I love it when people say these closers will not get through the traffic. But they do, more than half the time, one of them comes in first...

Would be interested if you have made a similar count.