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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Here's a quote for you,GR, that covers the liberal thinking he's smarter than the average person. Hillary Clinton in her book "I've always been a Yankee fan"...We just can't trust the American people to make those kinds of choices...Govt has to make those choices for people! page 20....speaking to Dennis Hastert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous tax-payer funded healthcare plan. I hope this post is up to your standards.
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Timm, I'm a believer that bad government is a bad thing, but I'm also a believer that good government is a very good thing (Social Security virtually wiping out elderly poverty, for example). So someone having the balls to say that a good government could run, for example, health care, better than the free market doesn't exactly bother me. Seeing as how two-thirds of the insurance industry's overhead is denying claims, I just don't see our system as effective. Not to mention the job loss overseas because health costs are so expensive here.
I think the Repubs did an excellent job taking over the argument on health care, and scaring the bejeezus out of people. And I don't think it was the crisis in 1993 that it's rapidly becoming. But Hillary was ahead of us with her push, and I'm willing to gamble before the end of my life (assuming I'm lucky enough to have a long one) I'll see a national health care system in place. For the love of Pete, Wal-Mart is advocating for it. And you don't get more anti-worker, red-state than Wal-Mart. Yes, because it will save Wal-Mart money, but fine. Once things reach a point where more conservative businesses and liberal activists are seeing the same problem, we'll start getting somewhere. But I think it'll take gov't, with its moderately paid service workers, to make it run well (the one thing no one ever accuses the Social Security administration of is inefficiency).
We aren't the bravest when it comes to change, we Americans. It takes something really big, like a Great Depression, to wake us up. And I'm not buying the standard right-wing rhetoric that government is the root of all evil.
(And if Wal-Mart really starts putting its money where its mouth is on pushing for national health care, I'll happily start shopping there again.)
And we need to raise minimum retirement to 70. People live longer, they can work longer, as far as I'm concerned. I'm willing to.