[blackthroatedwind]

Since you just claimed you post " all your bets ", yet have continued to insist on substantial results, yet have not posted winning bets HERE, I would have to say that while " substantial liar " may not be a kind assessment it certainly seems accurate as long as you continue to insist on successes that have simply not been substantiated. Sorry, but coming in AFTER races and referring others to some board we neither know of or care about does not substantiate anything. However, none of that really has anything to do with race and betting analysis so I am willing to let it go. I wish you success and like most honestly don't care how you have done in the past either positively or negatively.

More importantly, on the subject at hand, which is multi-race wagering, while I strongly agree that winning these bets centers more around eliminating horses than necessarily picking winners, I just as strongly disagree with your notion that small investments will produce good results over time. Not only is this not possible, it will result in a player missing substantial payoffs they would have been garnered had they played more responsibly and bet more money. The Pick-4 and Pick-6 are quite simply NOT bets that can be conquered with a small bankroll. The problem is not that you might not occasionally hit, it is really that you will miss out on winnings you should have had. I know I keep repeating this but I strongly believe it is a CRUCIAL point.

One manner where this can be accomplished is playing multiple tickets, where you narrow down three of the legs and open up the fourth. In your play yesterday you could have played three or four tickets....the original one opened up the first leg so it may well have covered that race, and as you singled the second you could have lived with that as a stand alone, and the other two could have been variations of the first ticket where you individually opened up the third and fourth legs. This would have given you very strong coverage in a play where it turned out your single was powerful.

The idea is not to prove anything when we bet.....the idea is singular and serious....and that is to WIN. In order to have any real chance to win over time in these bets you have to wager very well. Betting $12 to $24 will quite simply not allow you to wager well as you will most certainly ALWAYS be weak in at least two legs. Over time you cannot overcome this.

I apologize if you feel insulted by any of my words and hope we can move this conversation past a need to claim past successes and try to move everyone here, ourselves included, to a better level of play. Ultimately, isn't that the goal for all of us?