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Originally Posted by Danzig188
i just don't see how you can consider his abilities, under the weights he carried, the times he ran, and the ease with which he won, and think he's overrated. also consider the horsemen who thought he was so special.
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So, he's justified as the #1 horse of the 1900's because he ran fast times for his day, carried a lot of weight, won by big margins, and horseman thought he was special?
Roseben carried 150lbs on multiple occasions (12lbs more than Man O' War ever carried) and routinely gave between 50-to-60 lbs in weight to his opposition. Oh yeah, in a 20 length victory, he also ran 7 furlongs at Belmont Park, in 1:22 flat, breaking the North American record by almost three full seconds.
His track record stood at Belmont for 51 years, until Bold Ruler broke it in 1957
Roseben also won 52 races. Needless to say, he wasn't in the top 100.
The greatest spin master of all-time could never make a rational case that this horse (Man O' War) accomplished more than a Secretariat, or Spectacular Bid, or a Dr. Fager.
And in my own personal opinion, from a talent standpoint, he was also light-years behind those horses.