yeah playa thats the thing. WHen a stone cold guy who hasnt wona race since last fall send one out off a long layoff I'm outta there. To be a good handicapper you have to have principles and rules and you have to know that establishing good principles and rules will help you in the long run but occasionally cost you a good one. Kind of like identifying a dead sector in the Market, mayeb one stock will take off and roll and outperform the sector by why bother trying to identify that one stock when you can avoid that sector? I mean I've tossed O' Brien for 6 months and he finally wins one and I 'm supposed to be upset? The way i look at it I threw a guy out for 6 months and it worked real well. And teh fact that Johnny rode teh horse doesnt mean anything either, hes Leo's son in law and rides for him when Pletcher doesnt have one in and Leo wants him to ride. I guess guys just don't get it. You aren't ever going to hit every race.