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Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-11-2015, 02:05 PM

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Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

I thought davidowitz offered an excellent...

I thought davidowitz offered an excellent explanation of why any fig for this race is dubious and an sort of a non starter

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-10-2015, 02:53 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

Honestly how do you really no if you are more...

Honestly how do you really no if you are more right then wrong if you dont bet?

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-10-2015, 02:31 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

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Posted By freddymo

So you are saying the shorter the stride the more...

So you are saying the shorter the stride the more advantageous for developing constant speed? The problem with the math here is that while they are in air they aren't spending energy and are covering...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-10-2015, 02:13 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

The fig is accurate for the Florida derby but...

The fig is accurate for the Florida derby but frequently "makers" revisit numbers and adjust them accordingly. Seems to me this one needs adjusting. Now if you subscribe to GP horses will always run...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-10-2015, 12:24 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

Her Martha Washington at OP is breathtaking, Was...

Her Martha Washington at OP is breathtaking, Was at Haskell in paddock with her and she was such a grand filly. I am not sure what her stride measured but it looked like she was in air forever when...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-10-2015, 12:19 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

The one thing I agree with Beyer on as it relates...

The one thing I agree with Beyer on as it relates to AP besides the correct BSF is that the acid test will come against Older and IF he wins BCC all this conjecture on his speed and quality will...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-10-2015, 12:16 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

I loved Rachel like no filly/mare. Her campaign...

I loved Rachel like no filly/mare. Her campaign was stunning her Haskell was incredible and she is an all time filly Maybe and I mean maybe she is second behind Personal Ensign but I am splitting...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-09-2015, 01:29 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

I listened to Beyer very closely today. It's...

I listened to Beyer very closely today. It's pretty clear he thinks AP is beating up on a lot of ordinary colts or catching fast colts when they arent firing, for me that's very unrealistic. I also...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-09-2015, 12:50 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

If you think he ran well in Derby after a trip...

If you think he ran well in Derby after a trip and bad post, then 5 weeks of freshening would lead me to believe he should have been able to run a solid 6f's when asked to press pace. If you believe...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-09-2015, 12:40 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

My GUESS is the pace so solid not slow by any...

My GUESS is the pace so solid not slow by any measure. While you can suggest Materiality had been gutted in Derby, and was rushed to even compete in these races, just discounting him as a bum who...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-09-2015, 10:46 AM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

Beyers take on ATR is the pace was slow AP had it...

Beyers take on ATR is the pace was slow AP had it his own way and the race was historically ordinary. He applauds the achievement but clearly thinks AP speed is ordinary for G1 horses. By doing this...

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-08-2015, 03:21 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

CJ had a fairly strong view of race..118 on old...

CJ had a fairly strong view of race..118 on old scale 128 on the new version of figs.. 118 on the old scale is like a 111/112 BSF equivalent

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-08-2015, 09:38 AM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

Materiality's last race? Sounds like Beyer...

Materiality's last race?

Sounds like Beyer would like Coach Inge at 12f's at 12/1 vs. AP at even money? I guess that's fair?

Forum: Triple Crown Topics/Archive..

06-07-2015, 12:17 PM

Replies: 58

Sticky: Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Pharoah 105; Honor Code 112

Views: 48,412

Posted By freddymo

IMO that fig should be adjusted(lowered)...

IMO that fig should be adjusted(lowered) substantially. Florida Derby 2015 was slow on the clock and while track was goofy its just proven to be a key race for overrating colts.

Two plausible...

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